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Gentlemen,
Wouldn't want you thinking I was losing interest...
I just added a couple of 'on the shelf' snaps of the BMNH. I have a
suspicion that it may end up being a local office, in Port Block, built to
help deal with the Doolittle threat.
http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/doo/doo-28-n.jpg
http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/doo/doo-29-n.jpg
(These are both added to the second Doolittle page
http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/doo/do2.htm )
And there is a preview of the hull of the Sea Princess on the bench at the
recent Studs get together.
http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/stu/stu-01-n.jpg
(This is part of the LegOz 2000 page
http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/stu/ )
If you look carefully, you can just see two of Doolittle's Warrior Walruses
(Bruce's pirate captain based Black Guards) on deck.
Richard II's Hanseatic Cog is built, and the ex King has escaped his prison,
embarked on his three hour tour, headed for France. The wind is high, and
fair for France. Little does he know his next landfall will be almost 500
years hence ;-) Name for the cog? I understand that 14C private vessels
pressed into military service had castles added and their name suffixed by
de la Tour, a reference to the Tower of London near which the mods were
made. So how does "Soggy Chip de la Tour" sound? (the soggy chip appearing
to be one of England's chief export items).
Thoughts anyone?
Richard
Still baldly going...
Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~rparsons/port/
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On Wed, 23 Feb 2000, Richard Parsons (<FqDw30.Ewv@lugnet.com>) wrote at
12:58:40
(haven't looked at pics yet, cos it's 'spensive time)
>
> Richard II's Hanseatic Cog is built, and the ex King has escaped his prison,
> embarked on his three hour tour, headed for France. The wind is high, and
> fair for France. Little does he know his next landfall will be almost 500
> years hence ;-) Name for the cog? I understand that 14C private vessels
> pressed into military service had castles added and their name suffixed by
> de la Tour, a reference to the Tower of London near which the mods were
> made. So how does "Soggy Chip de la Tour" sound? (the soggy chip appearing
> to be one of England's chief export items).
Sounds like Soup du Jour :-)
Given that spuds hadn't been invented yet, possibly a trifle
anachronistic. But given the temporal route of this story, not
necessarily a problem :-)
And I deeply resemble the nasturtium that the soggy chip is one of the
best things to come out of Brickain. We do quite a good line in empire
builders: one size fits all. Once we've finished ;-)
--
Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> And I deeply resemble the nasturtium that the soggy chip is one of the
> best things to come out of Brickain ;-)
Bogus frat!
(now that there is an expletive from Trek - if I cop any flack over it, any
flack at all, I swear I'm going to start thumping people.)
Not only have caused Tony deep resemblement, I've committed a nasturtium!
<<rummage, rummage, finds dictionary, rummage rummage>> Its a plant! Holy
cow! I've turned Tony into a plant! With bright yellow, orange or red
flowers!
Much apologising and obsequiesness!
Can I get you anything - a glass of water? Fertiliser?
"deeply resemble the nasturtium" I love it ;-)
On the potatoe timing thing - I hadn't thought of that <<slaps wrists>>. I
guess Soggy Chip de la Tour is out then.
> We do quite a good line in empire builders: one size fits all.
> Once we've finished ;-)
Empire Builder de la Tour? Why not? Why not indeed? Now where's that code
editor......
Richard
Still baldly going....
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This is so funny I don't know where to start. I laughed out loud a lot.
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Richard Parsons (<FqEtwJ.FB@lugnet.com>) wrote at
01:09:55
> In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> > And I deeply resemble the nasturtium that the soggy chip is one of the
> > best things to come out of Brickain ;-)
>
> Bogus frat!
>
> (now that there is an expletive from Trek - if I cop any flack over it, any
> flack at all, I swear I'm going to start thumping people.)
You could just go and let off a few broadsides. Wonderful for relieving
that pent up aggression.
>
> Not only have caused Tony deep resemblement, I've committed a nasturtium!
> <<rummage, rummage, finds dictionary, rummage rummage>> Its a plant! Holy
> cow! I've turned Tony into a plant! With bright yellow, orange or red
> flowers!
>
> Much apologising and obsequiesness!
>
> Can I get you anything - a glass of water? Fertiliser?
Fertiliser's good. As long as I'm not *in* the fertiliser.
>
> "deeply resemble the nasturtium" I love it ;-)
>
> On the potatoe timing thing - I hadn't thought of that <<slaps wrists>>. I
> guess Soggy Chip de la Tour is out then.
Well, it could get renamed in the nineteenth century :-)
>
> > We do quite a good line in empire builders: one size fits all.
> > Once we've finished ;-)
>
> Empire Builder de la Tour? Why not? Why not indeed? Now where's that code
> editor......
It does have a certain ring, doesn't it?
--
Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> This is so funny I don't know where to start. I laughed out loud a lot.
I almost fell over right here in the Department lab. It
was sort of like MUDding (not that I ever did that, nudge
nudge, say no more)...
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Richard Parsons (<FqEtwJ.FB@lugnet.com>) wrote at
> 01:09:55
>
> > In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman writes:
> > > And I deeply resemble the nasturtium that the soggy chip is one of the
> > > best things to come out of Brickain ;-)
> >
> > Bogus frat!
> >
> > (now that there is an expletive from Trek - if I cop any flack over it, any
> > flack at all, I swear I'm going to start thumping people.)
>
> You could just go and let off a few broadsides. Wonderful for relieving
> that pent up aggression.
Else, you could keel-haul someone. (not me)
> > Not only have caused Tony deep resemblement, I've committed a nasturtium!
> > <<rummage, rummage, finds dictionary, rummage rummage>> Its a plant! Holy
> > cow! I've turned Tony into a plant! With bright yellow, orange or red
> > flowers!
> >
> > Much apologising and obsequiesness!
> >
> > Can I get you anything - a glass of water? Fertiliser?
>
> Fertiliser's good. As long as I'm not *in* the fertiliser.
I think we know who's getting keel-hauled. ;)
> > "deeply resemble the nasturtium" I love it ;-)
> >
> > On the potatoe timing thing - I hadn't thought of that <<slaps wrists>>. I
> > guess Soggy Chip de la Tour is out then.
>
> Well, it could get renamed in the nineteenth century :-)
This is why I'm answering the message (besides the loud
guffawing above). It can still be called "Chip," it's
just that "Chip" denotes something else--and in fact it
denotes something related to shipbuilding.
Y'see, when wooden ships were built in the 16th-19th
centuries, one of the "customary rights" of the builders
(meaning the proles, the men who actually did the grunt
labour) was to take the "chips"--any board under three
feet in length left over from construction. Such chips
were useless for anything else.
Now, you can see where acceptance of this principle could
cause a little problem, especially when labourers decided
they needed a *lot* of chips to build their house (and yes,
there were homes--shanties really--made up entirely of
board lengths of less than three feet, including the
furniture). In the late 18th century, Britain begain
to run out of wood suitable for building ships, prices
went up, and what did get to Portsmouth was that much
more precious because large bits had usually come across the
Atlantic Ocean. However, the labourers would often take
a carefully selected board or joist and indiscriminately
saw it up into roughly 2'11" lengths. Considering that
trees were in fact grown or sought out specifically for
certain shapes of board, this was a real problem--20 or
30 years' careful cultivation down the drain, with all the
monies and aggravation that entailed.
So they outlawed it, made it punishable by prison and
eventually by hanging. In return, the dockworkers and
shipyard labourers organised, rioted, struck, and so forth,
because some of them were taking 40% of their "pay" home in
chips--they were fuel, building materials, barter material,
all at once.
On the other hand, I can't imagine a *soggy* chip of this
sort. But it may explain why fries are called "chips" and
here in the YooEss they're not. However, they're not free
in the UK, for dockworkers *or* hungry tourists.
best
Lindsay
PS: Peter Linebaugh (U-Toledo) has a great chapter on chipping
in his book _The London Hanged_ (1990).
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On Thu, 24 Feb 2000, Mr L F Braun (<FqGH9p.E1E@lugnet.com>) wrote at
22:32:13
>
> This is why I'm answering the message (besides the loud
> guffawing above). It can still be called "Chip," it's
> just that "Chip" denotes something else--and in fact it
> denotes something related to shipbuilding.
While not knowing the details of this (shame on me), I *did* think about
the woodworking possibilities, but discarded it as another scurrilous
nasturtium on the Brickish weather :-)
--
Tony Priestman
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In lugnet.pirates, Tony Priestman wrote:
> Mr L F Braun wrote
> > This is why I'm answering the message (besides the loud
> > guffawing above). It can still be called "Chip," it's
> > just that "Chip" denotes something else--and in fact it
> > denotes something related to shipbuilding.
>
> While not knowing the details of this (shame on me), I *did* think about
> the woodworking possibilities, but discarded it as another scurrilous
> nasturtium on the Brickish weather :-)
Much as I would not dare cast nasturtiums on the Brickish weather (I'm told
nasturtiums are better cut and cast into a lovely crystal vase, with some nice
fresh water, to brighten up living rooms against the almost permanently
overcast skies outside ;-), it seems we're back to "Soggy Chip de la Tour",
regardless of the potatoes timing thing.
Now all I have to do is work out how this little cog managed to give its name
to mushy under-fried strips of potato :-)
Richard
Still baldly going....
Oi, did I just get keel-hauled while I wasn't watching? That *really* stings!
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