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Re: Imperial Soldiers Rank?
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Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:02:39 GMT
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote

For ships, you can fill out your crew with striped-shirted guys.
Color-coding is one way to go: red stripes with red coats, blue stripes with
blue coats.  Certainly cuts down on having to obtain expensive soldier figs.
Or go more british navy and switch all your redcoats to the shako-backpack
configuration to make them marines, and bluecoats as officers.



This seems to suggest that all members of naval ship crews should be
uniformed - I don't know about that.  At some point crews did become
uniformed, but up to 1800 (at least) only officers wore uniforms.  There may
have been a dress code, but not uniforms.

The point is that ship crews can be raised from standard pirate figs.

Obviously skull and crossbones bicorns and maybe the pirate with the knife
tucked into his shoulder belt wouldn't fit in, but otherwise: wait until
they're out of their gourds at some port of call, bop them on the noggin,
and drag them off to sea aboard one of His Brikannic Majesty's vessels. Once
you're out of sight of land (and when they come to) they can either sign on,
or get off ;-)

And red coated marines aboard Brikish vessels might also sport black top
hats, as a reasonable facsimile for one of the (slightly tapered, rimmed)
hats actually used in the period.

Regards

Richard
Still baldly going...
Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/


Subject: 
Re: Imperial Soldiers Rank?
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Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:56:08 GMT
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On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Richard Parsons (<FnuowG.DAE@lugnet.com>) wrote at
07:02:39

Or go more british navy and switch all your redcoats to the shako-backpack
configuration to make them marines, and bluecoats as officers.

Yep. I'm with you there. Blue coats being *naval* officers, that is.
There are obviously officers in the marines as well :-)


This seems to suggest that all members of naval ship crews should be
uniformed - I don't know about that.  At some point crews did become
uniformed, but up to 1800 (at least) only officers wore uniforms.  There may
have been a dress code, but not uniforms.

The point is that ship crews can be raised from standard pirate figs.

I think the ships did carry clothing, but for replacement purposes only.
So you wore the clothes you carried on board. And if you were pressed,
that was the ones on your back.

Obviously skull and crossbones bicorns and maybe the pirate with the knife
tucked into his shoulder belt wouldn't fit in,

I think you're probably allowed a knife, once the ship is cleared for
action :-)

And red coated marines aboard Brikish vessels might also sport black top
hats, as a reasonable facsimile for one of the (slightly tapered, rimmed)
hats actually used in the period.

Ahh! Hadn't thought of that. Jolly fine idea.


--
Tony Priestman


Subject: 
Re: Imperial Soldiers Rank?
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Wed, 5 Jan 2000 13:31:28 GMT
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Richard Parsons wrote:
Obviously skull and crossbones bicorns and maybe the pirate with the knife
tucked into his shoulder belt wouldn't fit in, but otherwise: wait until
they're out of their gourds at some port of call, bop them on the noggin,
and drag them off to sea aboard one of His Brikannic Majesty's vessels. Once
you're out of sight of land (and when they come to) they can either sign on,
or get off ;-)

And then of course for the Atlantic half of the world, you can stage a
re-enactment of The War of 1812...

--
Frank Filz

-----------------------------
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Home: mailto:ffilz@mindspring.com


Subject: 
Re: Imperial Soldiers Rank?
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Wed, 5 Jan 2000 15:37:47 GMT
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
Bruce Schlickbernd wrote

For ships, you can fill out your crew with striped-shirted guys.
Color-coding is one way to go: red stripes with red coats, blue stripes with
blue coats.  Certainly cuts down on having to obtain expensive soldier figs.
Or go more british navy and switch all your redcoats to the shako-backpack
configuration to make them marines, and bluecoats as officers.



This seems to suggest that all members of naval ship crews should be
uniformed - I don't know about that.  At some point crews did become
uniformed, but up to 1800 (at least) only officers wore uniforms.  There may
have been a dress code, but not uniforms.

The point is that ship crews can be raised from standard pirate figs.


You are absolutely correct from an historical viewpoint - however, I usually
write these kind of things from a gaming standpoint.  That way I know who
belongs where.  But my admirals wear their bicorns front-to-back rather than
side-to-side, so what do I know.  :-)

Bruce


Subject: 
Re: Imperial Soldiers Rank?
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Wed, 5 Jan 2000 22:39:09 GMT
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote

But my admirals wear their bicorns front-to-back rather than
side-to-side, so what do I know.  :-)

Mmmm, so do I.

http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/aga-02-n.jpg
http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/aga-06-n.jpg

Not at all sure about the historical accuracy, but it just looks more
dashing, no?

My army chieftains wear them side-to-side. They're not _supposed_ to be as
dashing, are they ;-)

Richard
Still baldly going...
Check out Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/


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