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In lugnet.pirates, Jason Spears writes:
> A while back I made a pirate ship borrowing from 6285 for the rear cabin and
> from 6286 for the swivalling cannons. Take a look if you want:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=3846
I do like the beak of that ship and the general lines. Very
nicely done. But it does look like it needs windows in that
sterncastle, admittedly not easy given the colours of window
available...
The last pair of cannon, I noticed, aren't on swivels. Any
story behind that?
> No sails yet, I still haven't gotten around to buying the fabric.
If you can get green striped "canvas" to match, that'll look great!
best
LFB
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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> I do like the beak of that ship and the general lines. Very
> nicely done. But it does look like it needs windows in that
> sterncastle, admittedly not easy given the colours of window
> available...
Well green windows might be hard to find, but perhaps I could use black 1x4
arch to simpulate them, just no glass (or shutters). Good Idea. This is my
first time making a pirate MOC so definitly room to improve.
> The last pair of cannon, I noticed, aren't on swivels. Any
> story behind that?
Actually I made this ship in the first place for Evil Stevie's pirate game, so
since this was a the size of a lev6 ship, I needed(wanted) 6 cannons. Space
constraints made it easier to just to bolt those ones to the deck (so to
speak). Inside the cabin I felt it would be difficult to be moving the cannons
around so I didn't bother. I was right too, putting just that one guy in the
back was kinda a chore.
-Jason
PS Thanks for the praise.
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In lugnet.pirates, Jason Spears writes:
> In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > I do like the beak of that ship and the general lines. Very
> > nicely done. But it does look like it needs windows in that
> > sterncastle, admittedly not easy given the colours of window
> > available...
>
> Well green windows might be hard to find, but perhaps I could use black 1x4
> arch to simpulate them, just no glass (or shutters). Good Idea. This is my
> first time making a pirate MOC so definitly room to improve.
"Simpulate?" That's one I will *definitely* have to add to my
lexicon. (Or was that unintentional? If so, it's still brilliant.)
Green window frames are hard to find, save on 6280 (1 per, I think?),
but a lot of the pirate ships have used 1x4x3 windows with shutters;
the green lattice inside shutters are the most common sort, IIRC,
and for the outer shutters green is common as dirt. If you don't
mind having square windows, it might be a prospect. It would also
give you a place from which to have a little sneak shoot a musket.
> > The last pair of cannon, I noticed, aren't on swivels. Any
> > story behind that?
>
> Actually I made this ship in the first place for Evil Stevie's pirate game, so
> since this was a the size of a lev6 ship, I needed(wanted) 6 cannons. Space
> constraints made it easier to just to bolt those ones to the deck (so to
> speak). Inside the cabin I felt it would be difficult to be moving the cannons around so I didn't bother. I was right too, putting just that
> one guy in the back was kinda a chore.
I see now that the swivel just wouldn't have done the trick on
that last pair--and yeah, moving guys around in the Pirate Game
is a hassle. Remember, if you accidentally drop him into the
water, there he stays...!
Now all you need are those sails. I'll look forward to seeing
the pictures here!
best
LFB
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Jason Spears wrote:
> > The last pair of cannon, I noticed, aren't on swivels. Any
> > story behind that?
>
> Actually I made this ship in the first place for Evil Stevie's pirate game, so
> since this was a the size of a lev6 ship, I needed(wanted) 6 cannons. Space
> constraints made it easier to just to bolt those ones to the deck (so to
> speak). Inside the cabin I felt it would be difficult to be moving the cannons
> around so I didn't bother. I was right too, putting just that one guy in the
> back was kinda a chore.
In some ways, I've thought about getting rid of the extra step in ship
class for the larger 16-wide ships. It's a real bear to get that extra
cannon into the ship. One thing that could be done is dispense with the
sloping poop deck, then you can fit a cannon up there. On my Red Seas
Barracuda, I mounted two rotating cannon on the foc'sle. I didn't bother
with the swivel mounts, I allow the cannon to just be swapped to the
appropriate side of the ship.
If you don't mind a bit of red in your spars, you can dramatically
increase your crew carrying space by buying a horde of Axe Carts to get
the red 1x4 plate with rod hooking down. That allows your spars to be
studs up, which means minifigs can stand on them. I managed to at one
point get a good bunch of black 1x4s with the rod hooking down so I will
be able to make a good number of ships with studs up spars.
Frank
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In lugnet.pirates, Frank Filz writes:
> In some ways, I've thought about getting rid of the extra step in ship
> class for the larger 16-wide ships. It's a real bear to get that extra
> cannon into the ship. One thing that could be done is dispense with the
> sloping poop deck, then you can fit a cannon up there. On my Red Seas
> Barracuda, I mounted two rotating cannon on the foc'sle. I didn't bother
> with the swivel mounts, I allow the cannon to just be swapped to the
> appropriate side of the ship.
Stands to reason. But could not the larger class still be useful,
if only for carrying capacity, speed, and hits to destroy? I'd
be interested in hearing what the new difference would be, if any.
> If you don't mind a bit of red in your spars, you can dramatically
> increase your crew carrying space by buying a horde of Axe Carts to get
> the red 1x4 plate with rod hooking down. That allows your spars to be
> studs up, which means minifigs can stand on them. I managed to at one
> point get a good bunch of black 1x4s with the rod hooking down so I will
> be able to make a good number of ships with studs up spars.
I'm glad you managed to get a bunch of those. I'm now wishing
I hadn't gotten rid of all my Weapons Wagons. Wait, I still do
have a couple unopened! (What sets did those pieces come in?)
best
LFB
Xpost/include : .fun.gaming
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Mr L F Braun wrote:
>
> In lugnet.pirates, Frank Filz writes:
> > In some ways, I've thought about getting rid of the extra step in ship
> > class for the larger 16-wide ships. It's a real bear to get that extra
> > cannon into the ship. One thing that could be done is dispense with the
> > sloping poop deck, then you can fit a cannon up there. On my Red Seas
> > Barracuda, I mounted two rotating cannon on the foc'sle. I didn't bother
> > with the swivel mounts, I allow the cannon to just be swapped to the
> > appropriate side of the ship.
>
> Stands to reason. But could not the larger class still be useful,
> if only for carrying capacity, speed, and hits to destroy? I'd
> be interested in hearing what the new difference would be, if any.
I would be inclined to make the only change be that the number of cannon
doesn't jump. The hit points and initial crew for a battle game probably
do make sense to have the jump. Of course it's a limited issue in some
ways the way I will tend to be running the game since I'm not sure how
often the larger ships will come into play if we constantly do the
campaign game style. I'm hoping we can get a smoother running game, and
I think I will make it easier to get treasure so ship upgrades happen
more often.
The other thought would be to have session to session continuity so that
over time you may get bigger ships (but make sure the game is
sufficiently destructive that you get reset often to avoid the 18th
level wizard problem).
I've also toyed with the idea of starting players with larger ships, but
then the cutters might not come into play very well (though perhaps
players could be started with 2 or 3 classes of ship).
I may have to consider thoughts on a battle game with enough campaign
style elements that people can start with several classes of ship, but
still encourage some of what I see as the good points of the campaign
game (one must realize that my interest in gaming has always been
campaign role playing, I've never been too much of one for traditional
war games).
> > If you don't mind a bit of red in your spars, you can dramatically
> > increase your crew carrying space by buying a horde of Axe Carts to get
> > the red 1x4 plate with rod hooking down. That allows your spars to be
> > studs up, which means minifigs can stand on them. I managed to at one
> > point get a good bunch of black 1x4s with the rod hooking down so I will
> > be able to make a good number of ships with studs up spars.
>
> I'm glad you managed to get a bunch of those. I'm now wishing
> I hadn't gotten rid of all my Weapons Wagons. Wait, I still do
> have a couple unopened! (What sets did those pieces come in?)
As far as I know, the only place the 1x4 plate with rod hooking down
have appeared in black have been pirate ships. I got my stock from
AucZilla or one of the other big parts auctions. I remember paying a
pretty penny for them, but I was willing to do so because I knew I
wanted to convert a bunch of older pirate ships to studs up spars. I was
ecstatic to see the part in the Axe Cart even if it was in red.
FUT: lugnet.fun.gaming
Frank
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