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In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
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> > In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
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> > > _The Art of War_ makes that one of its central tenets--not the "manhandle • the
> > > horses" thing, but "don't hit them where they're strongest". Wheel out the • long
> > > carronades and circle 'em with sloops! Arrr...1588 all over again.
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> > > I can perhaps understand the horses--after all, there's only one pirate • wench.
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> > > LFB.
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> > Them carronades be throwing a big ball a short ways. Good fer poundin' in
> > close. "Long carronades" be what they call an oxymoron (I be an eddicated
> > pyrate).
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> Ahhh heck. You're right. What am I thinking of? Not culverins--those are • old
> bronze art-deco cannon, though they were long...I think that may be the term • used
> to refer to the long-range chasers as well.
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> LFB
Long cannons were simply refered to as long cannons, or long (shot weight).
E.G. Long 18s, long 12s, long 9s. Long versions of a shot size were
considerably heavier than than non-long version, so often they were reserved as
bow-chasers or stern-chasers.
I'm not sure if Culverin somehow indicated construction method, or if the term
was attached to an older style (bronze with external ribbing?).
Bruce
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Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
> In lugnet.pirates, Lindsay Frederick Braun writes:
> > Ahhh heck. You're right. What am I thinking of? Not culverins--those are • old
> > bronze art-deco cannon, though they were long...I think that may be the term • used
> > to refer to the long-range chasers as well.
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> > LFB
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> Long cannons were simply refered to as long cannons, or long (shot weight).
> E.G. Long 18s, long 12s, long 9s. Long versions of a shot size were
> considerably heavier than than non-long version, so often they were reserved as
> bow-chasers or stern-chasers.
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> I'm not sure if Culverin somehow indicated construction method, or if the term
> was attached to an older style (bronze with external ribbing?).
It was an older style, originally, but I think the term enjoyed something of a new
genesis in the 19th century--but in what context, I'm unsure.
As for my fleet, well, I have a few things up, now that my old B&W scanner is
working again:
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/indomitable.html (HMS Indomitable, the
battlecruiser.)
http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/steamer.jpg (The steamer I mentioned before.)
Better detail pictures of everything forthcoming, now that I have a decent camera
*and* a scanner...arrrrrr.
LFB.
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Mr L F Braun wrote
> As for my fleet, well, I have a few things up, now that my old B&W scanner • is
> working again:
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> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/indomitable.html (HMS Indomitable, the
> battlecruiser.)
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> http://www.msu.edu/user/braunli1/steamer.jpg (The steamer I mentioned
before.)
I like it! I like it fine!
HMS Indomitable is the finest example of the art that I think I have seen.
If anything, I think its enhanced by the B&W. Not only does it reduce the
pic to very realistic colours, but it also gives it that WW2 reconnaissance
shot feel.
And the Torpedo boat looks cool too - can we see some more :-)
Richard
Still baldly going...
Visit Port Block at http://www.hinet.net.au/~guinan/
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In lugnet.pirates, Richard Parsons writes:
> If anything, I think its enhanced by the B&W. Not only does it reduce the
> pic to very realistic colours, but it also gives it that WW2 reconnaissance
> shot feel.
Thanks for the kind words--and for mentioning the B&W as a positive.
I'd wondered about that possibility (which has the added benefit of
offsetting the odd colour scheme of those early ships) of "aging"
the photo--if possible I'll try to "sepia-tone" the next batch to
make it more of a WWI feel than a WWII, since the pattern-ship is
the actual HMS Indomitable of 1909, *very* loosely translated from
its 1921 appearance.
> And the Torpedo boat looks cool too - can we see some more :-)
I have to get some more film (from the "bad camera," of course)
developed, but once that's done, there should be plenty. It's
three rolls, so there should be a few useable pieces there. The
better colonial cruiser, a few more sailing ships, and a later
(c.1930s) cruiser will also be on those. Hopefully by the weekend
they'll be up.
best,
LFB
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Hey all,
I've updated the site a bit--added more ships of various sorts, and
fixed bad attributions. I've got some good ones of the destroyers
coming on Sunday!
best
LFB.
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