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Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
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Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:47:28 GMT
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In lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto, Tanvir Mahtab wrote:

Ah Yes the classic I'm Not Touching You, finger in the face routine.
You can't possibly be annoyed by that.

Derek - I've got a few more logs to burn.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize that by posting on lugnet, I was pointing a finger
in anyone's face.  Please forgive my ignorance!  Perhaps that explains all the
foul language and ill will coming from the anti-bringbackoldcolors camp.  I
promise that in future, before I post anything, I will first make sure that no
one disagrees with my viewpoint, lest they think that I am wanting to pick a
fight and start hurling expletives in my general direction.

I thnk we really have to stop misinterpreting people around here.  Maybe there's
an ESL thing going on, but I know I'm not in the 'anti-bringbackoldcolours'
camp.  I would definitely state, for the record, that if TLC chose to bring back
old grey, I wouldn't shake my fist and stomp and rant and rave, "TLC shouldn't
have broguht back those old colours!!!"

All the power to them if they do, but, again, all the power to them if they
don't.  I also think that, whilst you may not know Derek, I know him to be a
pretty even tempered sort of fellow.  So ytou lumped Derek in with all those
mean nasty profane individuals who used bad language.

Which brings up, in concrete terms, the point that Calum made earlier when he
stated that this tirade from many people 'in either camp' will more than likely
be seen by the execs at TLC as representative of *all* AFOL's.  Right or wrong,
they probably will get the idea that no matter what they do, the 'AFOL
community' will react badly.  I mean, we're guilty about painting everyone not
on our particular side of this issue with the same brush--you just did it in
your post--"foul language and ill will coming from the anti-bringbackoldcolors
camp"  you grouped us all together.

If we do it amongst ourselves, why would we think that the execs at TLC wouldn't
group all AFOL's together?  Serioulsy, if all they ever hear coiming from the
AFOL community is bitchiness--

"We don't like the new colours!  It was the worst mistake you ever made!"

"We don't like you breaking your promiss--you cna'tre-release the 10152!"

"We don't like the juniorization!  Those are stupid ricks and you have to stop
making them!!"

"We don't like Bionicle!  They don't click in with the rest of our pieces!  It's
not real  LEGO and you have to stop making them!!"

I mean, I've been here for years and every one of these issues turned out to be
a bitchfest.  Every last one of them, and every time, a petition or a letter or
a "Jake!  You must listen to our bitching and relay it to those in charge and if
you don't, you should be replaced with someone who will!!"

Over the years, what has TLC heard from us, the supposed AFOL?

Yep, I wouldn't listen to us, either.

So I say a kind word.  I say that Jake's doing a pretty good job for the
community.  I say that, whatever TLC does from now on, that will not, nor
cannot, diminish the enjoyment I've had for 37 years playing with my LEGO
collection.  And for that I'm labeled, as is everyone else who took a stand
against the obsessed folks that believe they know better than the execs at TLC,
a 'brown noser' or a kiss-up to TLC.

Well, again I'll mention that I've had a run-in with TLC's legal department.
Sure it was a long time ago, but I still have the documentation.  Kiss-up?  I
don't think so.

But I won't presume to tell the multi-national corporation what they should or
should not do.  I will make, and have made, polite suggestions.  And the
original posted letter was not a polite suggestion, it was, in my mind, a
demand.  A demand from people who have stepped over the line from hobby and time
filler to obsessed.

When I hear the rationale--'the pieces don't match with my existing pieces!!
THey must change them back! Bley sucks and will signal the end of my involvement
with my hobby!'

Well, I have bley and they fit exactly the same way with my collection as any
other piece. The colours don't match?  Well, either did Orange or purple the
first time it showed up.  But you can't buy new 'old grey' anymore?  Well, I
can't buy an '86 Prelude brand new anymore, either, and, in my mind, that was
the best car ever produced by the Honda corporation--had the nicest lines of any
vehicle ever.  Am I picketing the Honda corporation to bring it back?

Obsessed.  Take a step back, go outside and get some air, and phrase you concern
politely, without maliciousness or sarcasm, especially if you want them to even
consider the request.

As for somethig I've always wanted to state since this colour issue first began,
and especially after the 10152 issue--you're not going to buy anywith the new
bley?

Fine--more for me and those of us who like LEGO as a hobby.  TLC isn't going to
lose out on my purchases--they're getting more.

Dave K
-yes I was getting snippy towards the end of that rant.  Eh, whatrya gonna do



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  Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
 
(...) It's true, I don't know Derek. I'm sure he's a nice guy. For all you know, I might be too. But Derek's last post wasn't "nice." My response was commesurate. (...) You criticize me, and yet you call me "obsessed", and lump me with quite a few (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

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  Re: Open letter to the CEO of the LEGO Company / Call for your signs! (no discussions here please)
 
(...) I'm sorry, I didn't realize that by posting on lugnet, I was pointing a finger in anyone's face. Please forgive my ignorance! Perhaps that explains all the foul language and ill will coming from the anti-bringbackoldcolors camp. I promise that (...) (19 years ago, 22-Jan-05, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)  

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