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Re: Not Saving Private Ryan.
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 1 Jun 2004 08:14:39 GMT
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Also, in WW2, what would the chances of a black guy
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(Diesel) being in a frontline squad be? Were non-whites not relegated to
logistics (as they could not be trusted to fight by those who knew best)?
Either way SPR is not the history lesson some would suggest.
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I think you are making some inaccurate assumptions about Vin Diesel’s
ethnicity to refer to him simply as “black”.
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Indeed, I understand that is his USP. Thankfully, I think SPR is the only
one of his efforts I have encountered.
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USP?
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Unique Selling Point. I understand he ticks all the correct ethnic
minority boxes in one swoop. This means there is no need for other minorities to
have a token presence in a movie, thus allowing more room for white guys!
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Anyway, the character he was
playing was Italian (Pvt. Adrian Caparzo).
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I was pretty sure he was an American? Can Mr Diesel do accents? Anyhow, are
there no black Italians? ;)
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I was trying not to be tedious and run through “American of Italian descent”
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I knew fine what you meant. I’m often bemused by the inability of Americans to
call themselves American; I recall that you are an Irish-American. ;) I
expect it’s a cultural thing.
BTW: This exchange reminds me of the scene in True Romance between Dennis Hopper
and Christopher Walken; perhaps that explains the Caparzo character. ;)
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and then explain how mixed race white/blacks sometimes pass specifically for
Italians (consider tedious explanation for culture in question appended
here).
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I can’t check IMDB at work, so I can’t check what you mean…
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Use of a “body double”, or the production companies involved?
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The former.
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I’m sure I’ve seen that movie, but I can’t remember a thing about it right
now. Anyhow, you yanks deserve all you get on the topic of “breaking the
sound barrier” as you stole that achievement from us using a plane that
could not even take off! Cheats!
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A brit breaks the sound barrier in the film by “reversing the controls”. No
mention of Americans, much less Yeager. At least U571 referenced the real
incidents (but U571 was the very movie I had in mind in regards to Brits
should not trust their stories to Hollywood).
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Was the black submarine pilot in U571 also an Italian-American. ;)
Scott A
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| (...) I think you need to make up your mind whether he is black or a "USP", which would imply you should have known to check the character's name. :-O And clearly you haven't seen his movies (which may be a blessing) in regards to the accusations (...) (20 years ago, 1-Jun-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| (...) Flung about willy-nilly? Snafu was the order of the day, and it was up the skill, intelligence, and daring of those involved to make order out of chaos. (...) I can't say that I recall one way or the other, but I presume that they would be (...) (20 years ago, 31-May-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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