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Re: The Lego Group will attempt to stop some "brickfilms"
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:37:33 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes:
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> > > > Violence much be eshewed as well, but there is a fine
> > > > line WRT teaching children about good and evil. There is no such line when • it
> > > > comes to the topic of sex and children.
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> That's because sex is neither good nor evil.
It can be. S & M, which combines sex and violence is evil; rape is evil.
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> > > > The very definition of a child is one who hasn't knowledge of
> > > > such things, and presenting it to them forces their
> > > > childhood from them, which is, in my mind, evil.
> > >
> > > Interesting definition of childhood-- I think I agree with the definition...
> > > However, I'm not sure I see it as evil if one attempted to 'force' adult
> > > information on them.
> >
> > Innocence, once lost, is gone forever. Experience comes with age. When
> > experience comes before age (childhood), healthy development is almost
> > certainly impossible.
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> What you think of as normal and healthy is not. It is a stunted
> charicature of humanity. People seek out experiences when they are ready for
> them. This information isn't being forced on the inocent babes, it is merely
> available. That's not evil!
What I am talking about is presenting adult material *before* a child is mature
enough to handle it. In this example, a child wouldn't be seeking out this
information; it would be encountered accidentally.
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> Evil is keeping humans in the bondage borne of ignorance to satisfy your own
> sense of worth and justification. Evil is preventing others from accessing the
> information and ideas that their minds and bodies crave.
But I'm talking about them accessing that kind of information and ideas that
their minds are *too* immature to understand.
Evil is filling the
> minds of the unexperienced juvenile with mythology told as truth in order to
> compell adherence to ridiculous and destructive standards.
I don't know exactly to what you are referring here, but I'm guessing religion.
1. Don't underestimate the positive influences of mythology, and/or
2. Some myths to which you may be referring might just be *more* than myths, as
far as you know.
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> > Anyone who would rob a child of the chance to develop normally into
> > a mature, healthy adult... yeah, I'd call them (or their acts) evil.
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> You mean by preventing their responsible and educated exploration of sexuality
> as an adolescent? I guess I'd call that evil too. Who knew that we'd end up
> agreeing?
:-) We can agree to disagree on your above views, Chris. Personally, I would
choose to err on the side of caution. Better in my mind for someone to learn
about adults things a little late rather than too soon. Kids grow up too fast
these days-- I would rather them enjoy the fullest childhood that they could,
which to me means being oblivious to adult concerns or matters. Eventually, as
they mature, they will outgrow childhood and mature *at their own pace*. And
this brings me back to my original point-- if a child encounters such mature
content in a LEGO movie (of all places) by mistake, it could disrupt that normal
development.
-John
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