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Exclusionary Themes
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Sat, 4 Dec 1999 06:54:53 GMT
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Can we go back to being a happy little stress-free group? The American rivalry
started off cutely, but in reality it is a very real form of prejudice, and
therefore not very cute at all.

The problem being that with any form of group mentality more and more people
start taking it seriously, which has an interesting feedback effect. See
Dawkins for a more in-depth discussion of memes and why prejudicial ideas in
particular flourish.

It's just hit a bit of a raw nerve, thats all.

Richard


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Re: Exclusionary Themes
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Sat, 4 Dec 1999 11:41:47 GMT
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On Sat, 4 Dec 1999, Richard Franks (<FM7F7H.28y@lugnet.com>) wrote at
06:54:53


Can we go back to being a happy little stress-free group? The American rivalry
started off cutely, but in reality it is a very real form of prejudice, and
therefore not very cute at all.

*Everybody* is prejudiced about something. The trick is to know you are.

But I agree. There's been a bit too much negativity washing about here
recently.

The problem being that with any form of group mentality more and more people
start taking it seriously, which has an interesting feedback effect. See
Dawkins for a more in-depth discussion of memes and why prejudicial ideas in
particular flourish.

Careful, Richard. You're beginning to sound a bit priggish.

It's just hit a bit of a raw nerve, thats all.

We've all got *them* as well.

The quote I keep on coming back to is Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks:

"Why can't we all just - get along?"


Although I don't think any anti-American sentiment would last long here
:-)
--
Tony Priestman


Subject: 
Re: Exclusionary Themes
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Sat, 4 Dec 1999 16:45:02 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Tony Priestman writes:

The problem being that with any form of group mentality more and more people
start taking it seriously, which has an interesting feedback effect. See
Dawkins for a more in-depth discussion of memes and why prejudicial ideas in
particular flourish.

Careful, Richard. You're beginning to sound a bit priggish.

Yeah, I do have a disturbing self-righteous streak sometimes ;) If it hadn't
been so late I might have phrased it differently - sorry if the way I said it
got up anyones nose!

Richard


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Re: Exclusionary Themes
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Sat, 4 Dec 1999 19:37:24 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Richard Franks writes:
Yeah, I do have a disturbing self-righteous streak sometimes ;) If it hadn't
been so late I might have phrased it differently - sorry if the way I said it
got up anyones nose!

No - what you said needed to be said by someone. lugnet is a public
newsgroup and I can't see any reason for excluding certain people from
it other than if people are posting inappropriate posts. As far as I'm
concerned anyone is welcome to read or post here, as long as what they
post is relevant to the UK (and - obviously - to Lego).

Simon
http://www.SimonRobinson.com


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Re: Exclusionary Themes
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Sun, 5 Dec 1999 00:15:00 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.uk, Tony Priestman writes:
*Everybody* is prejudiced about something. The trick is to know you are.

What is wrong with prejudice? :-D  It's discrimination which is far worse.

But I agree. There's been a bit too much negativity washing about here
recently.

I know and I hate it.

Although I don't think any anti-American sentiment would last long here
:-)

Hopefully not, as long as they don't keep creating pointless morality debates
here - putting them in the proper newsgroups.  I know a UK person posted the
original morality post but would you think that 150 posts would appear just
from us lot?

Back to LEGO I think :-)

Carbon 60


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