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First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Sun, 4 Jun 2006 18:53:39 GMT
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Hello Portuguese AFOLs!

I have a question for you folks in Portugal.....

According to TLG, the first sales of Lego to Portugal was in 1957.  (Also the
first years for Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands and Belgium.)  From 1955-58
TLG made Lego sets in the local language of the country where they were sold.
Starting in 1958, TLG changed to the International "LEGO System" for all
countries, so that they would not have to produce different boxes for each
country.

Has anyone in Portugal ever seen a Lego set with "Lego Bricks" and "Lego System
of Play" in Portuguese?  The most common sets would be the small spare parts
packs within the #210-#271 set number range.

Here are 2 examples of 1955-58 spare parts packs in German, used in Germany and
Austria (from Steve Scott's excellent webpage):

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/1956-German2.jpg

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/1956-German1.jpg

An example of a 1955-58 spare parts pack in Danish:

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/1956-mursten-type1.jpg


Or, perhaps the very first Portuguese parts pack boxes were of this type:

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/girls,%20ribbon,%20bowtieboy.jpg


Portuguese language sets of 1957-58 are not known to other western European Lego
collectors.  It may be possible that the first Lego sets in Portugal were the
very first sets with the "Lego System" (the last one).  But I wanted to check to
see if any of our Portuguese AFOLs hav ever seen one.

Thank you,

Gary Istok


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Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Opps, that Danish parts pack link is bad,  and the dates are actually 1957-58
for this type of pack:


www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/mursten-type1.jpg

This pack design had overlapping years with the German ones shown.

I am just hoping that one of these designs in a local language have been seen in
Portugal.

Gary Istok


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Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Hello,

Sorry for my bad English.

The boxs I have, I don't know the date of them, but i think that they are
from the last years of 50. I have the set's number 210, 211, 212, 222, 227
and 230. All of the box have "Lego System" in the box. They don't have any
word in Portuguese.

Best Regards
Nuno Lino


----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerhard Istok" <istokg@earthlink.net>
To: <lugnet.loc.pt@lugnet.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:53 PM
Subject: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?


Hello Portuguese AFOLs!

I have a question for you folks in Portugal.....

According to TLG, the first sales of Lego to Portugal was in 1957.  (Also
the
first years for Switzerland, Austria, Netherlands and Belgium.)  From
1955-58
TLG made Lego sets in the local language of the country where they were
sold.
Starting in 1958, TLG changed to the International "LEGO System" for all
countries, so that they would not have to produce different boxes for each
country.

Has anyone in Portugal ever seen a Lego set with "Lego Bricks" and "Lego
System
of Play" in Portuguese?  The most common sets would be the small spare parts
packs within the #210-#271 set number range.

Here are 2 examples of 1955-58 spare parts packs in German, used in Germany
and
Austria (from Steve Scott's excellent webpage):

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/1956-German2.jpg

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/1956-German1.jpg

An example of a 1955-58 spare parts pack in Danish:

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/1956-mursten-type1.jpg


Or, perhaps the very first Portuguese parts pack boxes were of this type:

www.misbi.com/vintage/boxes/1950%27s/girls,%20ribbon,%20bowtieboy.jpg


Portuguese language sets of 1957-58 are not known to other western European
Lego
collectors.  It may be possible that the first Lego sets in Portugal were
the
very first sets with the "Lego System" (the last one).  But I wanted to
check to
see if any of our Portuguese AFOLs hav ever seen one.

Thank you,

Gary Istok


Subject: 
Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Mon, 5 Jun 2006 00:46:25 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.pt, Nuno Lino wrote:
Hello,

Sorry for my bad English.

The boxs I have, I don't know the date of them, but i think that they are
from the last years of 50. I have the set's number 210, 211, 212, 222, 227
and 230. All of the box have "Lego System" in the box. They don't have any
word in Portuguese.

Best Regards
Nuno Lino

Thank you very much Nuno!

Your English is wonderful!!!  (Much better than my Portuguese!! ;-)

TLG said that Lego sales started in Portugal in 1957. (Along with Austria,
Switzerland, Netherlands, and Belgium)  Here is what the writing is in all the
countries that sold Lego in 1957, except of course for Portugal!

Here are the countries (1949-57), what year they came online, and the local
language writing on the boxes (from 1955-58):

Denmark:     (1949)  “Lego Mursten” and “System i leg”
Sweden:      (1950)  “Lego Mursten” and “System i lek”
Norway:      (1953)  “Lego Mursten” and “System i lek”
Germany:     (1956)  “Lego Bausteine” and “System im Spiel”
Austria:     (1957)  “Lego Bausteine” and “System im Spiel”
Switzerland: (1957)  “Lego Bausteine” and “System im Spiel” &
                     “Lego Briques” and “Du Systeme dans le jeu”
Belgium:     (1957)  “Lego Bouwstenen” and “Systeem bij het Spel” &
                     “Lego Briques” and “Du Systeme dans le jeu”
Netherlands: (1957)  “Lego Bouwstenen” and “Systeem in het Spel”

I believe that TLG only sold the International "LEGO SYSTEM" (without "System of
Play") sets in Portugal starting in 1957, a year before they were sold elsewhere
in continental Europe.

Thank you again!
This information will be discussed in the upcoming Lego CD.

Gary Istok


Subject: 
Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Tue, 6 Jun 2006 04:58:03 GMT
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Nuno,

You have a #210 Small Shop set (produced 1955-65).  What is the name on the
Named Beam in that set?  I have seen 3 variations on that sign for Germany
(TABAK, WUERSTCHEN and BACKER).  I was wondering what variation was sold in the
#210 sets for Portugal?

Also, the #226 Named Beam parts pack has 7 different named beam bricks.  These
can have such names as:  HOTEL, GARAGE, CAFE, KIOSK, ESSO SERVICE...

Have you ever seen any Portuguese language named beams?

Thank you for your help!

Gary Istok
USA


Subject: 
Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:53:35 GMT
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Hi,

I don't know what "Named Beam" means in Portuguese. My set 210 has "Lego System"
in the front side of the box" and a drawing of a "Kiosk" on one of the sides of
the box next to the number of the set.

These sets were my parents'.

I don't know any of this set's with portuguese words.

Best regards
Nuno Lino


In lugnet.loc.pt, Gerhard R. Istok wrote:
Nuno,

You have a #210 Small Shop set (produced 1955-65).  What is the name on the
Named Beam in that set?  I have seen 3 variations on that sign for Germany
(TABAK, WUERSTCHEN and BACKER).  I was wondering what variation was sold in the
#210 sets for Portugal?

Also, the #226 Named Beam parts pack has 7 different named beam bricks.  These
can have such names as:  HOTEL, GARAGE, CAFE, KIOSK, ESSO SERVICE...

Have you ever seen any Portuguese language named beams?

Thank you for your help!

Gary Istok
USA


Subject: 
Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Thu, 8 Jun 2006 21:16:56 GMT
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Nuno,

A "named beam" is (usually) a white 1x6 or 1x8 brick with writing on it.  Common
ones are 1x8 bricks with "GARAGE" or "ESSO SERVICE" writing on one side, or a
1x6 brick with "HOTEL" or "CAFE" writing on one side.

Did that #210 set have a brick with writing on one side?

Gary Istok


Subject: 
Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?
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Fri, 9 Jun 2006 18:11:36 GMT
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Hi,

Yes, the set 210 have one white 1x8 brick with writing on it "kiosk".

Best regards
Nuno Lino
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From: "Gerhard Istok" <istokg@earthlink.net>
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 10:16 PM
Subject: Re: First Lego Sales In Portugal in 1957?


Nuno,

A "named beam" is (usually) a white 1x6 or 1x8 brick with writing on it.
Common
ones are 1x8 bricks with "GARAGE" or "ESSO SERVICE" writing on one side, or
a
1x6 brick with "HOTEL" or "CAFE" writing on one side.

Did that #210 set have a brick with writing on one side?

Gary Istok


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