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10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Thu, 28 Nov 2002 02:56:04 GMT
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General info about the set which I needn't regurgitate for you:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10030

I recieved this on Wednesday night and commenced construction at 10pm. At
noon the next day, it was finished after having worked for 14 hours
non-stop. The building marathon was helped enormously by watching SW Ep IV &
VI while I was building.   :-)
There is a fair bit repetition on the detailing side, but the overall
construction isn't as boring as what some people were leading me to
believe - although one detailing element was repeated 16x for side seams.
One building step required so many technic pegs that the number required for
the step wasn't printed! (I'm wondering whether it was too many for their
CAD/printing software to handle.)

APPEARANCE:
It looks awesome (if you like the imposing greyness of Star Destroyers, that
is), at least from across the room. The tricky nature of the SNOT-like
angled-planes building means there are gaps that are kind of conspicuous
when you get up closer, though.

PARTS:
I'm not sure there is a Peeron inventory for this set, unfortunately I don't
have exact figures so I'll describe the primary parts I noticed...
If you build with grey then this set is a must-have. There are literally
dozens of 6xN plates in it (where N > 8), although I hope that you also like
the 6x12 "wing" plates because there are also a lot of those. There are
dozens of 1x16 Technic beams. The large number of Technic racks is also
nice - I can think of a few cool uses for those.
Most of the part count, though, appears to be in a mountain of small
detailing bits such as 1x1 levers, taps, grille tiles and 1x2 thinwalls. The
merits of owning this many of these parts are dubious. Good luck to the
Bricklinkers...  ;-)
When parted out, the light grey space wheels used on the main engines are
going to be a hot item, as only three occur in this set. The two shield
domes on top are ingenuously made with a Space Port asteroid lower half with
a faceted dome on top (no new elements).

CONSTRUCTION:
I'm rather disappointed with the construction method, which is both flimsy
(the top levels just sit on top rather than connect) and also uses magnets
to keep the panels on - the latter being a bad point in my book. The whole
thing is very hard to pick up without risking the collapse of the panelled
underside. Fortunately as a display piece this isn't hugely relevant, but
it's still annoying.

OVERALL:
Overall, I'm glad I bought it, but wasn't the marvel I hoped it'd be, more
of a novelty - I'll probably keep it built for a few weeks, then demolish it
and never build it again. After all, it IS a goldmine of grey plates and
parts.
Recommended only if you build with lots of grey, and/or worship the Imperial
Star Destroyer.

--
Cheers,
Paul
LUGNET member 164
http://www.geocities.com/doctorshnub/

   
         
     
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:40:43 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Paul Baulch writes:
General info about the set which I needn't regurgitate for you:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10030

I'm not sure there is a Peeron inventory for this set,

http://peeron.com/inv/sets/10030-1 (inventory not confirmed)

With thanks to TLC

ROSCO

   
         
   
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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I'm rather disappointed with the construction method, which is both flimsy
(the top levels just sit on top rather than connect) and also uses magnets
to keep the panels on - the latter being a bad point in my book. The whole
thing is very hard to pick up without risking the collapse of the panelled
underside. Fortunately as a display piece this isn't hugely relevant, but
it's still annoying.

Flimsy indeed. Mine kept breaking apart as I tried to assemble it. Much cursing
and swearing was required. Finally when I had just got the thing finished, I
sat back exhausted and then my cat walked past, put her paw onto the side of
it, and it fell over sidewise and collapsed into many chunks. I finally rebuilt
it today (more cursing and swearing). The cat is lurking nearby though, so I
don't know how long it will survive this time.

I don't think the rebels will need to fear the Natasha! One nudge and it's
history.

Kerry

   
         
     
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Tue, 10 Dec 2002 23:10:58 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:
Flimsy indeed. Mine kept breaking apart as I tried to assemble it. Much cursing
and swearing was required. Finally when I had just got the thing finished, I
sat back exhausted and then my cat walked past, put her paw onto the side of
it, and it fell over sidewise and collapsed into many chunks. I finally rebuilt
it today (more cursing and swearing). The cat is lurking nearby though, so I
don't know how long it will survive this time.
I don't think the rebels will need to fear the Natasha! One nudge and it's
history.

Just like the original Natasha... :-)

Richie

   
         
     
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:54:21 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:

Flimsy indeed. Mine kept breaking apart as I tried to assemble it. Much cursing
and swearing was required. Finally when I had just got the thing finished, I
sat back exhausted and then my cat walked past, put her paw onto the side of
it, and it fell over sidewise and collapsed into many chunks. I finally rebuilt
it today (more cursing and swearing). The cat is lurking nearby though, so I
don't know how long it will survive this time.

I don't think the rebels will need to fear the Natasha! One nudge and it's
history.

..but did it end up looking like this ?
http://www.truedimensions.com/isdparts.jpg

   
         
   
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Wed, 11 Dec 2002 22:52:08 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:
I'm rather disappointed with the construction method, which is both flimsy
(the top levels just sit on top rather than connect) and also uses magnets
to keep the panels on - the latter being a bad point in my book. The whole
thing is very hard to pick up without risking the collapse of the panelled
underside. Fortunately as a display piece this isn't hugely relevant, but
it's still annoying.

Flimsy indeed. Mine kept breaking apart as I tried to assemble it. Much cursing
and swearing was required. Finally when I had just got the thing finished, I
sat back exhausted and then my cat walked past, put her paw onto the side of
it, and it fell over sidewise and collapsed into many chunks. I finally rebuilt
it today (more cursing and swearing).

Having now seen this in the ABS (thanks, Kerry!), I can vouch for it's
fragility. It fell apart even as I watched...

The wide expanses of grey plates are stunning, but also very wobbly. Another
layer of plates (or technic beams or something) would be needed to keep the
plates straight. The model also provides very few lift points making moving
it for display purposes - let alone swooshing - very difficult.

It must be the most fragile official model ever, by a large margin (The
Sopwith Camel is probably the next closest I've seen, but is built like a
brick outhouse when compared to the Natasha).

Hmmm... any other contenders for most fragile official model ever?).

Cheers

Richie

   
         
     
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Having now seen this in the ABS (thanks, Kerry!), I can vouch for it's
fragility. It fell apart even as I watched...

See, all it takes is one steely glance from Richie's death ray eyes and it's
history!

Kerry

   
         
     
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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In lugnet.loc.au, Richie Dulin writes:

The wide expanses of grey plates are stunning, but also very wobbly.

More grey plates than a $4.95 all-you-can-eat-smorgasmboard ?

They should make the Natasha available in other colours, like 'My Own Train'
You could have brown(natural) Natasha as a nice sauce of brown plates.
Or blonde Natasha, tan plates on top, brown plates on the underneath half.
Or green Natasha (if she joined the greens), can never get enough green plates.
Or red Natasha (if she joined the Socialists).
Or silver Natasha (after 50 years in Parliament), chrome plates...yum

    
          
     
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Thu, 12 Dec 2002 04:43:08 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Pete White writes:
In lugnet.loc.au, Richie Dulin writes:

The wide expanses of grey plates are stunning, but also very wobbly.

More grey plates than a $4.95 all-you-can-eat-smorgasmboard ?

They should make the Natasha available in other colours, like 'My Own Train'
You could have brown(natural) Natasha as a nice sauce of brown plates.
Or blonde Natasha, tan plates on top, brown plates on the underneath half.
Or green Natasha (if she joined the greens), can never get enough green plates.
Or red Natasha (if she joined the Socialists).

or an orange Natasha (if she migrated to the Netherlands).

or a yellow Natasha (after all, she didn't stand and fight...)

Or silver Natasha (after 50 years in Parliament), chrome plates...yum

How about a 'current political profile' Natasha - trans clear?

Cheers

Richie

   
         
   
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Re: 10030 Imperial Star Destroyer
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Date: 
Thu, 12 Dec 2002 05:00:31 GMT
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In lugnet.loc.au, Richie Dulin writes:
In lugnet.loc.au, Kerry Raymond writes:
I'm rather disappointed with the construction method, which is both flimsy
(the top levels just sit on top rather than connect) and also uses magnets
to keep the panels on - the latter being a bad point in my book. The whole
thing is very hard to pick up without risking the collapse of the panelled
underside. Fortunately as a display piece this isn't hugely relevant, but
it's still annoying.

Flimsy indeed. Mine kept breaking apart as I tried to assemble it. Much cursing
and swearing was required. Finally when I had just got the thing finished, I
sat back exhausted and then my cat walked past, put her paw onto the side of
it, and it fell over sidewise and collapsed into many chunks. I finally rebuilt
it today (more cursing and swearing).

Having now seen this in the ABS (thanks, Kerry!), I can vouch for it's
fragility. It fell apart even as I watched...

Sounds like TLC are getting more than set ideas from Ritvik...

ROSCO (Now proud owner of 2 flimsy sets...)

 

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