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Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general
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Thu, 27 May 2004 17:14:58 GMT
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2. TAXES

And all this doesn't take into account other taxes Americans pay yearly.
* personal property tax
* vehicle tax
* sin tax (cigs, alcohol, and other "non-necessary things)
* gasoline tax (30-40 cents per gallon?)
* Medicaire (not a tax)
* Social Security (not a tax)
* Federal Income Tax (don't get me started!!!)
* State Income Tax

Health care options and prices in America suck in my opinion.
Social Security benifits may not be around when I reach age 65 (or older).
Federal income tax was a "temporary" supplimental way to fund WW2.
Apparently the US goverment forgot that that war has been over for 60 years.

Do other countries have such a large number of required things they must
pay?

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 27 May 2004 17:30:03 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Rob Hendrix wrote:
2. TAXES

And all this doesn't take into account other taxes Americans pay yearly.
* personal property tax
* vehicle tax
* sin tax (cigs, alcohol, and other "non-necessary things)
* gasoline tax (30-40 cents per gallon?)
* Medicaire (not a tax)
* Social Security (not a tax)
* Federal Income Tax (don't get me started!!!)
* State Income Tax

Health care options and prices in America suck in my opinion.
Social Security benifits may not be around when I reach age 65 (or older).
Federal income tax was a "temporary" supplimental way to fund WW2.
Apparently the US goverment forgot that that war has been over for 60 years.

Do other countries have such a large number of required things they must
pay?

I'd encourage this subthread to migrate away from the current groups and into
off-topic.debate if it goes too much further into comparative analysis of
countries... I XFUT there already.

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Thu, 27 May 2004 18:49:14 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
And all this doesn't take into account other taxes Americans pay yearly.
* personal property tax
* vehicle tax
* sin tax (cigs, alcohol, and other "non-necessary things)
* gasoline tax (30-40 cents per gallon?)
* Medicaire (not a tax)
* Social Security (not a tax)
* Federal Income Tax (don't get me started!!!)
* State Income Tax

Do other countries have such a large number of required things they must
pay?

Builtin taxes: gasoline, other fuels, alcohol, cigarettes (at least). I
think about 90% of gasoline price is various taxes.
health security (in fact a tax)
social security (in fact a tax)
tax from immobilities (is it 'personal property tax'?)
income tax, progressive from 15% to 40%

I work till July only for our _damned_ socialistic goverment.

--
Jindroush <jindroush@nospam.seznam.nospam.cz>
Remove both 'nospam's from the address to reply.

    
          
     
Subject: 
Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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Thu, 27 May 2004 23:21:12 GMT
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Do other countries have such a large number of required things they must
pay?

   Yup, the UK's pretty bad too - VAT at 17.5% on most goods (included in the
price though), the fuel tax is incredibly high (about 86%) plus you have to pay
road tax just to have your vehicle on the road. Alcohol and Tobacco taxes are
high as well (Tobacco being a lot higher - but hey, it's to pay for the national
health service (well, 10% of it does... Dunno where the other 90% goes.)) .

   Then there's national insurance (about 11%), which covers the National Health
Service, State Pension and Unemployment Benefit.

   And finally income tax, which ranges from 10-40%, although most people will
be paying 22%.

   Steve

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general
Date: 
Fri, 28 May 2004 07:15:28 GMT
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Rob Hendrix wrote:
And all this doesn't take into account other taxes Americans pay yearly.
* personal property tax
* vehicle tax
* sin tax (cigs, alcohol, and other "non-necessary things)
* gasoline tax (30-40 cents per gallon?)
* Medicaire (not a tax)
* Social Security (not a tax)
* Federal Income Tax (don't get me started!!!)
* State Income Tax
Health care options and prices in America suck in my opinion.
Social Security benifits may not be around when I reach age 65 (or older).
Federal income tax was a "temporary" supplimental way to fund WW2.
Apparently the US goverment forgot that that war has been over for 60 years.
Do other countries have such a large number of required things they must
pay?
Well, your list matches mine here in Germany, with two notable exceptions:

We pay about EUR1.20 (US$1.44) per liter gasoline, of which EUR0.90 to
0.95 are taxes. With 4.55 liter being a gallon, and the Euro at about
US$1.20 we pay roughly US$5 taxes per gallon (no, this is no mistake!).

On top of our Income Tax we have a fat add-on to subsidize the eastern
half of Germany. This was originally planned for a few years after the
reunion to bring the former GDR up to par, and has now been extended to
2020 and beyond, IIRC. So much for "Joys of Reunion"...

We've got some very historic-exotic taxes, too, e.g. on salt or on
lightbulbs(!) ;-)

BTW, about 60% of all secondary literature on taxes and evading them
world wide is written in German - go figure :-(

On the other hand, our Sales Tax is "only" 16%. Nonetheless, Lego prices
are roughly 1.6-1.8 times the American ones, although we are Denmarks
next-door neighbours, and there are no transatlantic transport costs to
cover.

Yours, Christian (who just wanted to set some points right)

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.loc.au, lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.debate
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FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate

"Christian Treczoks" <ct@braehler.com> wrote in message
news:HyExHu.GGK@lugnet.com...

We pay about EUR1.20 (US$1.44) per liter gasoline, of which EUR0.90 to
0.95 are taxes. With 4.55 liter being a gallon, and the Euro at about
US$1.20 we pay roughly US$5 taxes per gallon (no, this is no mistake!).

Actually there is a mistake.  1 gallon = 3.8 liters, not 4.55 liters.

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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Date: 
Fri, 28 May 2004 20:42:44 GMT
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An Imperial Gallon is 4.55L.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=1+imperial+gallon+in+liters&btnG=Google+Search

Though Christian probably should have converted to US gal in this particular
case.

Neb Okla wrote:

FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate

"Christian Treczoks" <ct@braehler.com> wrote in message
news:HyExHu.GGK@lugnet.com...

We pay about EUR1.20 (US$1.44) per liter gasoline, of which EUR0.90 to
0.95 are taxes. With 4.55 liter being a gallon, and the Euro at about
US$1.20 we pay roughly US$5 taxes per gallon (no, this is no mistake!).

Actually there is a mistake.  1 gallon = 3.8 liters, not 4.55 liters.

--
Tom Stangl
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Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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n_okla@hotmail.com (Neb Okla) wrote in <HyFsM8.vAx@lugnet.com>:

FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate

"Christian Treczoks" <ct@braehler.com> wrote in message
news:HyExHu.GGK@lugnet.com...

We pay about EUR1.20 (US$1.44) per liter gasoline, of which EUR0.90 to
0.95 are taxes. With 4.55 liter being a gallon, and the Euro at about
US$1.20 we pay roughly US$5 taxes per gallon (no, this is no mistake!).

Actually there is a mistake.  1 gallon = 3.8 liters, not 4.55 liters.

Actually, both are correct. 1 US gallon is 3.785 litres, 1 UK gallon is
4.545 litres. One more reason to go metric.

--
Harro de Jong

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: New Product Announcement - 10152
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 1 Jun 2004 09:59:20 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Harro de Jong wrote:
n_okla@hotmail.com (Neb Okla) wrote in <HyFsM8.vAx@lugnet.com>:

FUT: lugnet.off-topic.debate

"Christian Treczoks" <ct@braehler.com> wrote in message
news:HyExHu.GGK@lugnet.com...

We pay about EUR1.20 (US$1.44) per liter gasoline, of which EUR0.90 to
0.95 are taxes. With 4.55 liter being a gallon, and the Euro at about
US$1.20 we pay roughly US$5 taxes per gallon (no, this is no mistake!).

Actually there is a mistake.  1 gallon = 3.8 liters, not 4.55 liters.

Actually, both are correct. 1 US gallon is 3.785 litres, 1 UK gallon is
4.545 litres. One more reason to go metric.


Now I know why 10 gallon hats are so small. ;)

Scott A (Who thought {everything} was bigger in the USA)

 

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