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Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends
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lugnet.lego, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 20:44:51 GMT
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Jake,

When running these types of surveys, it might help to run them in two phases,
due to the way you ask people to add their own responses.

For instance, under "castle" your survey then goes on to ask "what type", and
gave the options "Black Knights", "Lord of the Rings", "Fantasy theme like
centaurs, dwarfs, mythical animals", "Ninja", and "King Leo's Castle", plus the
add your own option.  Imagine six people vote.  I added something like "modular
castles (see 80's sets)", but suppose someone else added "sets like 6041" and
another person said "sets in the style of Legoland Castle", and another person
said "Things like the Guarded Inn".  We'd all be asking for essentially the same
thing, but if two people voted for "Ninja", it would look like more people want
Ninja than anything else.

In my suggestion, there'd be two phases to a survey like this.  In the first you
would ask for people's suggestions.  Then, someone goes through those and
combines the nearly identical ones above into one category.  In the second
phase, then, the voting is more concentrated, because all of the people above
end up voting for the same thing, and it becomes more meaningful data.  Of
course this requires that someone goes through and does the job of combining,
and someone will always object that the combined categories don't completely fit
their suggested category.

Another thing on the survey.  It is not clear whether you mean what old set
would we like rereleased as a Legend, or just general suggestions on future
directions in what kinds of sets we want.

Bruce

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego, lugnet.general
Date: 
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 22:01:18 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
Jake,

When running these types of surveys, it might help to run them in two phases,
due to the way you ask people to add their own responses.

For instance, under "castle" your survey then goes on to ask "what type", and
gave the options "Black Knights", "Lord of the Rings", "Fantasy theme like
centaurs, dwarfs, mythical animals", "Ninja", and "King Leo's Castle", plus the
add your own option.  Imagine six people vote.  I added something like "modular
castles (see 80's sets)", but suppose someone else added "sets like 6041" and
another person said "sets in the style of Legoland Castle", and another person
said "Things like the Guarded Inn".  We'd all be asking for essentially the same
thing, but if two people voted for "Ninja", it would look like more people want
Ninja than anything else.

In my suggestion, there'd be two phases to a survey like this.  In the first you
would ask for people's suggestions.  Then, someone goes through those and
combines the nearly identical ones above into one category.  In the second
phase, then, the voting is more concentrated, because all of the people above
end up voting for the same thing, and it becomes more meaningful data.  Of
course this requires that someone goes through and does the job of combining,
and someone will always object that the combined categories don't completely fit
their suggested category.

Another thing on the survey.  It is not clear whether you mean what old set
would we like rereleased as a Legend, or just general suggestions on future
directions in what kinds of sets we want.

Bruce

In the first survey, if memory serves me, someone went through the suggestions,
cleaned up, simplified, or combined suggestions, and then added it to the list.
There were numerous adds - my suggestion regarding Pirates was slightly
reworded, mostly for brevity and added to the list (where it made the top five,
IIRC).  Presumably, they will do the same this time.

-->Bruce<--

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: More opinions needed - possible future Legends
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.lego, lugnet.general
Date: 
Mon, 22 Mar 2004 00:03:48 GMT
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In lugnet.lego, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
Jake,

When running these types of surveys, it might help to run them in two phases,
due to the way you ask people to add their own responses.

For instance, under "castle" your survey then goes on to ask "what type", and
gave the options "Black Knights", "Lord of the Rings", "Fantasy theme like
centaurs, dwarfs, mythical animals", "Ninja", and "King Leo's Castle", plus the
add your own option.  Imagine six people vote.  I added something like "modular
castles (see 80's sets)", but suppose someone else added "sets like 6041" and
another person said "sets in the style of Legoland Castle", and another person
said "Things like the Guarded Inn".  We'd all be asking for essentially the same
thing, but if two people voted for "Ninja", it would look like more people want
Ninja than anything else.

I know exactly what you mean! Couldn't agree more with you, mr. Hietbrink!
After taking the survey last Friday, I went back today to see if more people
might have choosen one of the options I suggested.

Now I see that most of the suggestions I made are totally disappeared! One of
them was the suggestion for the release of a Jabba's Sailbarge set (under the
Star Wars sections of course) and it has been replaced by someone else's
suggestion for *the same set*, only put *in other words*! Therefore it has
dropped to the 10th place of suggestions, while obviously more people wish to
see a set like this released...

...I'm afraid this works (or *doesn't work* actually...) in the same way
throughout the entire survey!
In the end TLC receives a lot of feedback and suggestions, in Top10 order, but I
doubt if it will still be representative for the wishes of it's customers...


Just a Dutch lurker's 2 cents.

P.S.1. In case I'm wrong, that is if in the end all similar votes/suggestions
will be added to eachother before counting (in the believe and hope that TLC
actually *will* do *something* with the community's input) then I really wonder
how the survey system keeps track of this, cause I couldn't find any survey
explanation on this particular matter...

P.S.2. I do not desperately need an officially released Sail Barge set (if that
is what my message *might* imply to some people...)
Just took that as an example for explaining my matter.


Oh, and eh, I must say I'm glad I'm Space complete, cause a Classic Space Legend
in new lightgray just wouldn't be a Legend no more!
(I'm sorry if this sounds a bit conceited or sore. No harm intended; I'm happy
with the new SW sets -despite some of it's colors-!)


Nevertheless, thanks to Jake for his ongoing efforts to support the community!
(I think the bricks & plates packs are obvious evidence of Jake's possibilities
within The company...it's a -small- turn into the right direction!)


Erik
(Lugnet member 1386)

 

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