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Re: New homepage for LUGNET
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lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general
Date: 
Fri, 20 Feb 2004 20:03:13 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.general, Bruce Hietbrink wrote:
   In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman wrote:

   Well, LUGNET was created to unite the LEGO community online, not to segment it. The current homepage feels rather isolationist.

Agreed. In the legofan.net thread there were several posts that sounded offended that anyone would consider another location (posts positing LUGnet as “THE” home for on-line LEGOdom, which ignored other huge sites, or people arguing that other message boards were somehow illegitimate). I think it’s healthy to promote that we are a portion of a network of AFOLs and KFOLs--perhaps we are the largest portion of the English-speaking general-theme adult fans, but that doesn’t mean we should isolate from other groups that have higher kid populations, primary languages other than English, or are very theme-specific.

Exactly.

  
   I actually think that the Top Stories box should be removed from the main LUGNET homepage. It’s redundant with the News homepage.

I would disagree. Unless there is some serious, oft-updated content added to the front page (e.g. admin-blog or rotating images), the Top Stories box is the only reason I keep coming back to www.lugnet.com, rather than making news.lugnet.com my preferred bookmark. If the front page becomes static, who aside from brand new viewers cares what it looks like, because experience members will go directly to their respective corners of LUGNET.

I’m up in the air about keeping ‘Top Stories’ on the main page of LUGNET. Perhaps it should stay, and have a bit less prominent position.

What I’d *really* like to see is a magazine-style news posting system where articles (not posts) are written for the LUGNET main page. Take a look at BZPower, BrickFilms, or FBTB among other sites to see what I’m talking about. This feature wouldn’t take up the whole main page, but could have a significant part of the middle devoted to it.

If written the right way, it could tie in news from across the community and not just LUGNET. LUGNET could have an editorial staff that publishes a small handful of articles each week, to keep the content on the main page fresh.

Also, others could get together to create a “New to the hobby?” guide for newbies. That could provide some copy orienting them to the various sites and services in the community, and point them in the right direction.

Now below is a novel idea, so please don’t jump on me for it - just brainstorming here:

I wonder if “Newsgroups” should be renamed to “Discussion Groups.” I don’t know how the LUGNET population breaks down, but on the internet today far more people use online discussion groups than use NNTP news. New users will likely identify with the word “Discussion Groups” or “Forums” much quicker than they would “Newsgroups.” Note: I am not suggesting eliminating NNTP news, I realize that’s important to a lot of LUGNET readers. Perhaps though, the http://news.lugnet.com could redirect to something else? Could it be written in a way that it doesn’t break existing links?

   ** Perhaps the links page could be totally revamped if we asked theme moderators to submit their lists and someone could compile a master list of links. We could also put a big announcement on the front page asking people to submit their own, living links. Otherwise, someone would have to take the current list and try every site to see what is alive and what is dead--a tedious job when there are over 300 sites listed under “miscellaneous”. Also, when was that page created anyway? I know my site isn’t on it, nor is the Brick Testament (we went up about the same time 3 or so years ago). There has to be a ton of great sites that are not included.

When I was brainstorming the WorldLUG project with Paul Hartzog, one of our key ideas was a central links database - like an open directory project. Allow LUGNET members to update their own URLs that are listed in the links database, and set up a few admins to manage links to non-LUGNET-member sites.

There could even be a redirect URL which would always point to the current location of a site, by way of the central link database. For example, if I own www.foo.com, and I want to link to www.geocities.com/~bar/glort.html, but I know that page will probably change in the future, I can link to www.lugnet.com/link.cgi?id=x (where x is the link ID of the page I’m linking to). The LUGNET server would then redirect me to www.geocities.com/~bar/glort.html - and if that ever changed the link would point me in the right direction once the link database was updated.

That way, I wouldn’t have to manually change my links to another community site.

-Tim



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  Re: New homepage for LUGNET
 
(...) Wouldn't it be just easier to share the info with those pages? (...) yahoo.lugnet.org? ;-)) Just why 'admins'? Let everybody add anything, let others vote, let others veto. Add autotools for periodical link checking. Let the person who added (...) (20 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general)
  Re: New homepage for LUGNET
 
(...) snip (...) Yes! - it would be very much like a group blog. See my mockup: (URL) (...) snip (...) This is a great idea. It is a superhuman task for one person, or even a few people to keep up with all the links out there. Marc Nelson Jr. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general, FTX)

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  Re: New homepage for LUGNET
 
(...) Agreed. In the legofan.net thread there were several posts that sounded offended that anyone would consider another location (posts positing LUGnet as "THE" home for on-line LEGOdom, which ignored other huge sites, or people arguing that other (...) (20 years ago, 20-Feb-04, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.publish.html, lugnet.general, FTX)

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