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In lugnet.general, Reinhard "Ben" Beneke writes:
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> After I saw the rest of the building instruction, I'm totally doubting.
>
> I never saw a so badly drawn building instruction! Compare the wheels in the
> steps three and four.
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4976/0371-03.jpg
> Looks really like drawn by hand. But that's a fact which makes me believe in
> that instruction even more.
>
> Or the white 2x3x0.33 plates in step seven: even in the idea books there are • no
> such low quality drawings.
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4976/0371-04.jpg
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> But where's the battery box? At least there's a way for the cables to the • motor
> contacts.
>
> I'm really confused about that building instruction and have never seen
> somthing similar before....
>
> Regards,
>
> Ben
I would have to side on the belief that this is a fake for a couple of
reasons. After looking at 60's and early 70's instructions on brickshelf I
would say that the poor quality of these instructions is a dead giveaway.
I would also like to point out that a long nose tractor with tandem axles in
rear and a sleeper that is over the top of the cab is a clear product of the
80's and 90's. Trucks just did not look like this in the 60's and 70's.
Also note that these sets were only available in Europe, not the US where a
truck that looks like this would be most likely to be found.
On another note, the battery box could be held in the hand and it would hook
to the motor just in front of the windshield. Look at the instructions for
335 (I think?) for an example of this old style motor.
If I'm wrong about this I will gladly eat my words!
Daniel
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In lugnet.general, Daniel Wayne Poole writes:
> I would have to side on the belief that this is a fake for a couple of
> reasons. After looking at 60's and early 70's instructions on brickshelf I
> would say that the poor quality of these instructions is a dead giveaway.
> I would also like to point out that a long nose tractor with tandem axles in
> rear and a sleeper that is over the top of the cab is a clear product of the
> 80's and 90's. Trucks just did not look like this in the 60's and 70's.
> Also note that these sets were only available in Europe, not the US where a
> truck that looks like this would be most likely to be found.
> On another note, the battery box could be held in the hand and it would hook
> to the motor just in front of the windshield. Look at the instructions for
> 335 (I think?) for an example of this old style motor.
While I can't say much about real trucks, it seems that all the
early (grey-tire) trucks had a stack of black and clear 1x2 plates
for a grille, with a red 2x3-4knob-with-hole rounded plate for string
attachment sticking out. At some point (after the first few black-tire
trucks) they lose the red plate and get a black 1x2 for a grille.
Those instructions show a clear 2x2 (which I've not seen on any truck)
while the front picture has either a very clear pin-less 1x2 or
just a gap.
While I don't know whether the pin-less 1x2 bricks came out after
the year range this truck might fall into (though I'd guess they
were later - about '74?), the instructions show 2 1x2s of this
kind on the bottom layer of the windshield with 2 1x1s and a 1x2
as the second layer in step 2, which is reversed in step 4.
The picture shows probably the setup of step 2, though the upper
layer may be a 1x4 or two 1x2s. Either way, the pin-less 1x2s
never were used in plain clear (only trans-colors and maybe the
1x2 "LEGO" steering brick?) until some point in the 80s.
The instructions also show those 1x2s in the side windows, which
are made from 2xXs in the picture. The pillars in between
are 1x1s in the instructions, but the picture seems to have
1x4s there. Of note in the very sloppy instructions is that
the lines are nevertheless extremely straight, even though
they're often bizarrely angled - cheap paint program?
-gbr
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> I would have to side on the belief that this is a fake for a couple of
> reasons. After looking at 60's and early 70's instructions on brickshelf I
> would say that the poor quality of these instructions is a dead giveaway.
> I would also like to point out that a long nose tractor with tandem axles in
> rear and a sleeper that is over the top of the cab is a clear product of the
> 80's and 90's. Trucks just did not look like this in the 60's and 70's.
I tried to find some pictures on the web of trucks from the era. I didn't have
a ton of luck, but the following page has a few:
http://www.aths.org/OTStuff/gather.htm
The 1953 Mack most of the way down the page drew my eye--except for the shorter
nose, it bears a decent resemblance to the supposed 371 IMHO.
Alan
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