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Re: August Surprise...
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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 05:04:34 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.


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Re: August Surprise...
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I think he means that if he were to build a town, it would have a train
station/line in it. I do not think he is saying that "Train" is part of
"Town". For a long time I have thought (and said) that Train needs to move
away from Town a little. I have suggested, in the past, that Lego should
consider an adventures train... or perhaps even a western or space one. I
suppose it could be argued that they have taken a tiny step that way with
the HP set. A tiny step.

Scott A


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Re: August Surprise...
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message
news:GGKL1z.LMu@lugnet.com...
I
suppose it could be argued that they have taken a tiny step that way with
the HP set. A tiny step.

Scott A

A tiny, yucky step.


Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:22:12 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

First of all, I just want to say that you sure are a touchy guy.  That said,
on to my response.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way.

No?  When looking at the Metroliner box, I can clearly see at least half a
dozen minifigs which are clearly Town.

LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I do.  I am part of LUGNET.  Your statement is false. :)

I think the wording of my original post may be what you have an issue with.
I was careful not to capitalize 'town' or 'train', because I wasn't talking
about the Town line or the Train line.  All I was saying is that while the
Metroliner is a train (and part of Train), it looks to me like it would be
part of a town (not the Town line, but just a town/city).

Similarly, if LEGO were to produce an Old West era train, (maybe they have,
I don't know), to me it would be part of the wild west.  The train may be a
set in the Train line, but all I was originally saying is that it fits into
other lines as well.

In fact, I would be willing to go so far as to say that Train (the line) is
almost a supplement to other lines of LEGO sets.  A futuristic train would
be part of Space (the monorail is often used in Space setups).  An early
1900s era train could easilly be part of Adventurers.  An 1800s train could
easilly be part of Western.  Modern trains are easilly a part of Town.

I'm not saying that trains are any more or less
valuable/interesting/fun/whatever than other LEGO lines, but what would a
Train setup be without buildings, people, etc.?

Bryan "gonna buy a Metroliner and build a town around it" Beckwith


Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:30:09 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Scott Arthur writes:

- snip -

I think he means that if he were to build a town, it would have a train
station/line in it. I do not think he is saying that "Train" is part of
"Town". For a long time I have thought (and said) that Train needs to move
away from Town a little. I have suggested, in the past, that Lego should
consider an adventures train... or perhaps even a western or space one. I
suppose it could be argued that they have taken a tiny step that way with
the HP set. A tiny step.

You summarized what I was saying better than I could have.

As for the "tiny step" with HP, I actually feel it is a pretty large step.
At least now a train (no Larry, not a Train) will be available at almost all
retail locations.

Scott A

Bryan Beckwith


Subject: 
Re: August Surprise...
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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:42:10 GMT
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In lugnet.trains, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way.

No?  When looking at the Metroliner box, I can clearly see at least half a
dozen minifigs which are clearly Town.

But the original box was badged Trains not Town... The metroliner had grey
1x4s in it, does that make it Classic Space?

LEGO(r) set up different themes, LEGO decided how to organize them. LEGO
decided that Town and Trains were different themes. It's gotten all muddled
up of late, but the original theme organization made sense.

LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I do.  I am part of LUGNET.  Your statement is false. :)

LUGNET(tm), the entity, not "LUGNET users", so your claim is inoperative. :-)

You are posting to lugnet.trains and not lugnet.townandtrains because the
people who set up the newsgroups modeled the theme organization quite
closely. Rightly so, IMHO.

Bryan "gonna buy a Metroliner and build a town around it" Beckwith

Which is fine, but shows that you're a townie. I build townstuff as a
backdrop for trains rather than the other way round. The trains are the
players on *my* stage and the buildings are merely set decoration. To each
his own, though, there is no wrong way to do things.

Just wrong ways of speaking, which is why I jumped.


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Re: August Surprise...
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Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:54:48 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

As for the "tiny step" with HP, I actually feel it is a pretty large step.
At least now a train (no Larry, not a Train) will be available at almost all
retail locations.

Agreed. Definitely not a "Train" since it's not badged as Train. Not sure
I'd characterise it as even a small "t" train since it doesn't run on track,
apparently.


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Re: August Surprise...
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Good point.  The 6691 Monorail Transport Base is Space/Unitron, and the 6399
Airport Shuttle is Town/Flight yet both are monorails - similar to trains
(i.e. bi-rails?).

I think the Lego Group should be consistant.  The existing line of trains
ARE Town!


Play well,

-BrewB


Bryan Beckwith wrote in message ...
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.events.brickfest, Bryan Beckwith writes:

Personally, I think of the Metroliner as being a town set.  Sure it's a
train, but trains are a part of town, IMO.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way. LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

First of all, I just want to say that you sure are a touchy guy.  That • said,
on to my response.

Why? LEGO(r) doesn't see it that way.

No?  When looking at the Metroliner box, I can clearly see at least half a
dozen minifigs which are clearly Town.

LUGNET(tm) doesn't see it that way.

I do.  I am part of LUGNET.  Your statement is false. :)

I think the wording of my original post may be what you have an issue with.
I was careful not to capitalize 'town' or 'train', because I wasn't talking
about the Town line or the Train line.  All I was saying is that while the
Metroliner is a train (and part of Train), it looks to me like it would be
part of a town (not the Town line, but just a town/city).

Similarly, if LEGO were to produce an Old West era train, (maybe they have,
I don't know), to me it would be part of the wild west.  The train may be a
set in the Train line, but all I was originally saying is that it fits into
other lines as well.

In fact, I would be willing to go so far as to say that Train (the line) is
almost a supplement to other lines of LEGO sets.  A futuristic train would
be part of Space (the monorail is often used in Space setups).  An early
1900s era train could easilly be part of Adventurers.  An 1800s train could
easilly be part of Western.  Modern trains are easilly a part of Town.

I'm not saying that trains are any more or less
valuable/interesting/fun/whatever than other LEGO lines, but what would a
Train setup be without buildings, people, etc.?

Bryan "gonna buy a Metroliner and build a town around it" Beckwith


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