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Subject: 
Re: Brad J Brickfest 2002 Keynote Speech synopsis
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.admin.general
Date: 
Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:52:50 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Erik Olson writes:
It was a rhetorical question.

No, you began with a statement that I think was intended to imply quite
specifically that I am a whining child.  It was also in direct reply to my
own post.

As it turns out, I don't take offense because I don't even know you nor do I
care what you think.  But please admit when you are making, or attempting to
make, personal attacks.  You could have stayed on point, but you chose not
to -- you chose to make it personal instead.

Larry chose to end his reply with a kind of personal attack also (this is
the guy that is allowed to moderate and curate newsgroups here and on
bricklink?).

James posed a famous trick question that cannot be answered yes or no
without admitting fault (in this case the *really sweet* assertion that I
beat women).

I might disagree with some of the views stated by Larry P., James B., or
even those of Erik O. but I don't think I go out of my way to insult them
personally.  Maybe there is some confusion about the word "apologist" -- it
merely means "A person who argues in defense or justification of something,
such as a doctrine, a policy, or an institution."

Anyway, I don't see why some of you choose to attack me personally for my
views.  Disagree with my opinions, mount your own arguments, etc. -- no problem.

Get in my face and we have a problem.

Frankly, I am not sure why some of you are not banned from posting for
failure to keep a civil tongue when replying to others' posts.

-- Hop-Frog

   
         
     
Subject: 
Re: Brad J Brickfest 2002 Keynote Speech synopsis
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.events.brickfest, lugnet.admin.general
Followup-To: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 24 Jul 2002 02:12:57 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Richard Marchetti writes:
It was a rhetorical question.
No, you began with a statement that I think was intended to imply quite
specifically that I am a whining child.  It was also in direct reply to my
own post.

Ok guys, take this to another group -- like .off-topic.debate or something.
This part of the thread isn't about BrickFest anymore...

--Todd

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brad J Brickfest 2002 Keynote Speech synopsis
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 24 Jul 2002 03:01:47 GMT
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In lugnet.events.brickfest, Richard Marchetti writes:

James posed a famous trick question that cannot be answered yes or no
without admitting fault (in this case the *really sweet* assertion that I
beat women).

Hmm.  I didn't intend it to be a statement of your character - I've seen
enough of your posts to know you're intelligent enough to see it for exactly
what it was - "a famous trick question".  I was highlighting, admittedly in
an oblique way, that your question "Why is it smart to discontinue an
accessory pack that has sold out?" is forcing the person asked into a
particular type of answer.

If you found it insulting, please accept my apologies - it was not my
intent.  The opposite, rather; from your fairly solid grasp of debate
techniques, I expected you to recognize my intent without spelling it out.
I'll try and remeber the kid gloves in the future.

James

   
         
   
Subject: 
Re: Brad J Brickfest 2002 Keynote Speech synopsis
Newsgroups: 
lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 24 Jul 2002 11:56:15 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, James Brown writes:
Hmm.  I didn't intend it to be a statement of your character - I've seen
enough of your posts to know you're intelligent enough to see it for exactly
what it was - "a famous trick question".  I was highlighting, admittedly in
an oblique way, that your question "Why is it smart to discontinue an
accessory pack that has sold out?" is forcing the person asked into a
particular type of answer.

That's pretty sketchy.

My question was essentially rhetorical. I didn't expect to get any kind of
reply at all -- the fact that I got replies from some of the usual persons
makes those replying apologists (the negative connotation this word may have
is not my fault -- it quickly and easily describes the routine defense of
TLC's actions that some of you like to engage in). The form my question took
was off the top of my head -- I could just as easily have asked: "Why are
you discontinuing a brisk selling accessory item even if it means creating a
replacement mold?" or some such thing.  The question rhetorically asks for
an explanation and is not a trick question that I can see. If undue emphasis
is to be given the word "smart" and that is the key word that makes the
question somehow unfair, I guess you are suggesting that TLC doesn't have
"smart" reasons for the things it does -- with which I might tend to agree.

BTW, the fact that I know it's a famous trick question doesn't mean that
everyone knows this, and this IS a public forum.  That's why I called
attention to this fact immediately.  Many may also not realize that I am not
married and hence have no wife -- again, something people do not necessarily
know.  You claim it was used innocently, and I guess that's possible -- but
I am suspicious of this claim.  I wouldn't be annoyed if you canceled that
post and replaced it with one without the offending trick question.

-- Hop-Frog

 

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