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| Jason Maxwell wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, Erik Olson writes:
> > Caerlaverock. Some castle on a rock? Nay, I think not. I tried breaking it down
> > several ways, and discovered that a laverok is a lark in middle english,
> > chiefly Scotch. But possibly, lavoir, Middle French for wash cistern, rooted in
> > Latin lavare. I don't think Celtic carrus (wheeled vehicle) is relevant. Of
> > course an ock is a tough, hard, durable tree. I suppose a lark could be a bird
> > named in association with a castle that was tough like a tree that got washed
> > everyday. Or the castle could be named for the bird that washes oaks. Such a
> > pretty name. I could be full of lark kaka by now.
>
> While I can't answer what the name means, I can tell you that Caerlaverock
> Castle was the seat of the Maxwell clan. It's walls never fell to siege (I
> don't think) and it was considered one of the strongest castles in Scotland
> due to it's unique three sided design.
I think 'Caer' was a Gaelic word for castle. I can't find any proof for that
beyond the great number of castles named Caer <something>, though.
(In addition, two of my favorite series of children's books had 'Caer'
castles in them. The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander had several
Caers, and C.S. Lewis' Narnia chronicles had Cair Paravel.)
J
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> Jason Maxwell wrote:
>
> > While I can't answer what the name means, I can tell you that Caerlaverock
> > Castle was the seat of the Maxwell clan. It's walls never fell to siege (I
> > don't think) and it was considered one of the strongest castles in Scotland
> > due to it's unique three sided design.
>
> I think 'Caer' was a Gaelic word for castle. I can't find any proof for that
> beyond the great number of castles named Caer <something>, though.
I believe it can also mean "town", or "village", as well. Perhaps it means
"settlement"? I've been meaning to look it up one of these days. :D
> (In addition, two of my favorite series of children's books had 'Caer'
> castles in them. The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander had several
> Caers, and C.S. Lewis' Narnia chronicles had Cair Paravel.)
The Prydain Chronicles are one of my favorites, too! I need to purchase copies
of that series... :)
Jeff
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| In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > Jason Maxwell wrote:
> > I think 'Caer' was a Gaelic word for castle. I can't find any proof for that
> > beyond the great number of castles named Caer <something>, though.
I was guessing Gaelic too but it appears to be Welsh.
> I believe it can also mean "town", or "village", as well. Perhaps it means
> "settlement"? I've been meaning to look it up one of these days. :D
Found in at http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh/LexiconForms.html. It's framed
so you need to run the search yourself but it comes up as "wall;castle;town."
Everyone seems to have the right idea.
> > (In addition, two of my favorite series of children's books had 'Caer'
> > castles in them. The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander had several
> > Caers, and C.S. Lewis' Narnia chronicles had Cair Paravel.)
>
> The Prydain Chronicles are one of my favorites, too! I need to purchase copies
> of that series... :)
>
> Jeff
The Science Fiction Book Club has (had?) a single volume of the Prydain
stories. I think there were five in that volume - is that all of them?
John
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | John Radtke wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > > (In addition, two of my favorite series of children's books had 'Caer'
> > > castles in them. The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander had several
> > > Caers, and C.S. Lewis' Narnia chronicles had Cair Paravel.)
> >
> > The Prydain Chronicles are one of my favorites, too! I need to purchase copies
> > of that series... :)
> >
> > Jeff
>
> The Science Fiction Book Club has (had?) a single volume of the Prydain
> stories. I think there were five in that volume - is that all of them?
Er...mostly. The main series had five books (_The Book of Three_,
_The Black Cauldron_, _The Castle of Llyr_, _Taran Wanderer_,
_The High King_.) However, there are other books & short stories set
in Prydain. The only one I remember offhand is (I think) _Coll and his White
Pig_, but I think there are 2 or 3 others.
J
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| In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> John Radtke wrote:
>
> > In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > > > (In addition, two of my favorite series of children's books had 'Caer'
> > > > castles in them. The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander had several
> > > > Caers, and C.S. Lewis' Narnia chronicles had Cair Paravel.)
> > >
> > > The Prydain Chronicles are one of my favorites, too! I need to purchase
> > > copies of that series... :)
> > >
> > > Jeff
> >
> > The Science Fiction Book Club has (had?) a single volume of the Prydain
> > stories. I think there were five in that volume - is that all of them?
>
> Er...mostly. The main series had five books (_The Book of Three_,
> _The Black Cauldron_, _The Castle of Llyr_, _Taran Wanderer_,
> _The High King_.) However, there are other books & short stories set
> in Prydain. The only one I remember offhand is (I think) _Coll and his White
> Pig_, but I think there are 2 or 3 others.
>
> J
There are at least two more: _The Foundling and Other Tales of Prydain_, and
the book about Fflewder Fflam. I *still* haven't figured out the name of that
one yet... :\
Jeff
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| Jeff Stembel wrote:
> In lugnet.castle, Jeff Johnston writes:
> > John Radtke wrote:
> >
> > > In lugnet.castle, Jeff Stembel writes:
> > > > > (In addition, two of my favorite series of children's books had 'Caer'
> > > > > castles in them. The Prydain Chronicles by Lloyd Alexander had several
> > > > > Caers, and C.S. Lewis' Narnia chronicles had Cair Paravel.)
> > > >
> > > > The Prydain Chronicles are one of my favorites, too! I need to purchase
> > > > copies of that series... :)
>
> > > The Science Fiction Book Club has (had?) a single volume of the Prydain
> > > stories. I think there were five in that volume - is that all of them?
> >
> > Er...mostly. The main series had five books (_The Book of Three_,
> > _The Black Cauldron_, _The Castle of Llyr_, _Taran Wanderer_,
> > _The High King_.) However, there are other books & short stories set
> > in Prydain. The only one I remember offhand is (I think) _Coll and his White
> > Pig_, but I think there are 2 or 3 others.
>
> There are at least two more: _The Foundling and Other Tales of Prydain_, and
> the book about Fflewder Fflam. I *still* haven't figured out the name of that
> one yet... :\
A search on Amazon reveals: The Truthful Harp. Long out of print, unfortunately.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0030656354/qid=963488035/sr=1-101/102-4744656-3148118
J
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