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> "Hey, grey is one of our core, classic colors - do you think we're just going to
> trash it?"
There are already a bazillion threads about the color changes. This isn't one of
them.
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Rocco J Carello wrote:
> > "Hey, grey is one of our core, classic colors - do you think we're just going to
> > trash it?"
> There are already a bazillion threads about the color changes. This isn't one of
> them.
In case you haven't noticed - Gray is one of the primary colours when it
comes to castles ;-)
Seriously - Tom raises an important point here: "How reliable is TLC?",
and I see close connections between changes in bricks/colours and
changes in sets.
concerned, Christian Treczoks
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In lugnet.castle, Christian Treczoks wrote:
> Rocco J Carello wrote:
> > > "Hey, grey is one of our core, classic colors - do you think we're just going to
> > > trash it?"
> > There are already a bazillion threads about the color changes. This isn't one of
> > them.
> In case you haven't noticed - Gray is one of the primary colours when it
> comes to castles ;-)
>
> Seriously - Tom raises an important point here: "How reliable is TLC?",
> and I see close connections between changes in bricks/colours and
> changes in sets.
Yes, Tom does raise an important point. However, it is the same point that was
raised in all of the "color change" threads, and it is off-topic in this thread
no matter how far he wants to stretch a tangent that connects them.
Personally, I am sick of reading about the color changes. Normally, people would
say, "nobody is forcing you to read about the color changes, so stop
complaining," if somebody said they were sick of reading about color changes.
Naturally, I have stopped reading the color change threads.
Unfortunately, I rather feel as if I am being forced to read about the color
changes when somebody posts about them in unrelated topics as if there was
actually something new to say on the subject. There is nothing new to say on the
subject. We are smelling the glove. Get over it, or post in one of those long
circular threads where people argue about it all day long. This thread is
supposed to be about 2004 Castle Products as the title would suggest.
And no, I don't see "close connections between changes in bricks/colours and
changes in sets". People who have seen the new Snowspeeder and Millennium Falcon
seem to agree that they are better designs than the originals. Better designs.
Who is going to complain about that and how is it relevant to the color change?
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In lugnet.castle, Rocco J. Carello wrote:
> > "Hey, grey is one of our core, classic colors - do you think we're just going to
> > trash it?"
>
> There are already a bazillion threads about the color changes. This isn't one of
> them.
For those of us who are concerned about this colour change issue, Thomas message
is pertinent enough to deserve belonging to this thread (or any other for that
matter).
If the old greys/brown are in fact being replaced (yes, there are some of us
that can hardly believe it...) i have to tell you that TLC doesn't deserve my
confidence anymore and, almost any rumour will start to make sense from now on.
There again, i find Thomas message quiet ON-topic!
Maybe you don't feel that way, but changing a basic color like (light) grey, is
just a thing that *could not* happen. Therefore, please excuse the ones of us
that feeling offended and betrayed just can't get over it.
Best,
Paulo Renato
P.S. Many thanks Jake for your much appreciated efforts!
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> For those of us who are concerned about this colour change issue, Thomas
> message is pertinent enough to deserve belonging to this thread (or any
> other for that matter).
I could be wrong, but I don't think it's okay to hijack any thread you want with
color complaints. No message is that important. That just seems like simple
posting etiquette.
What is the point of starting a thread to discuss a topic if the replies can be
on any subject under the sun? If people are going to do that, we may as well
just have monkeys banging on keyboards. The purpose of having a threaded
newsgroup is to make it easier for people to read about topics they are
interested in and skip the ones they aren't.
Jake started two threads. One for discussing the color issues, and one for
discussing the castle sets. Don't you think the the color complaints would be
more effective in the proper thread? If I was going to post opinions about the
replacement colors, I know I would want to post in a thread where people are
actually discussing the issue instead of creating noise in unrelated threads.
> TLC doesn't deserve my confidence anymore and, almost any rumour will
> start to make sense from now on.
The new Castle sets are going to have Belville style figures with bat-wing
helmets and trans-orange flames in their mouths. There is going to be a new
catapult with spiked wheels like on the WarCraft computer games. There will also
be new elf minifigs that work in a medieval bakery and make cookies. There will
be two large castles, one for each of the two main factions. When you put the
flag of one faction onto the roof of the other faction's keep, it will play "O
Fortuna" from a little speaker under the drawbridge.
> Maybe you don't feel that way, but changing a basic color like (light)
> grey, is just a thing that *could not* happen.
Maybe it should not happen, but it most certainly could.
> Therefore, please excuse the ones of us
> that feeling offended and betrayed just can't get over it.
I'm not telling anybody how to feel. It's okay to feel offended, betrayed, and
unable to get over it.
... but it's still off topic.
I could tell you how I feel about the color changes, but that would be off
topic. I could tell you that they've changed a basic color like Red in the past,
but that would be off topic too. I could tell you that Ancestral Recall is a
powerful blue instant in Magic: the Gathering, but I would still be off topic.
In fact, this whole message is off topic.
Now, to try getting back on topic:
I'm looking forward to the 2004 Castle Products. If they are well designed and
priced fairly for their quality, I will buy them. If I don't think they are
worth my money, I won't buy them. I can't really say anything else until I have
more information, but that O Fortuna thing sounds pretty cool.
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In lugnet.castle, Rocco J. Carello wrote:
> > TLC doesn't deserve my confidence anymore and, almost any rumour will
> > start to make sense from now on.
>
> The new Castle sets are going to have Belville style figures with bat-wing
> helmets and trans-orange flames in their mouths. There is going to be a new
> catapult with spiked wheels like on the WarCraft computer games. There will also
> be new elf minifigs that work in a medieval bakery and make cookies. There will
> be two large castles, one for each of the two main factions. When you put the
> flag of one faction onto the roof of the other faction's keep, it will play "O
> Fortuna" from a little speaker under the drawbridge.
Laughs out loud! Where O where did you get the O Fortuna idea from?
Anyway, as soon as you have some pics of these sets, I will start to believe in
them....
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snipped the message :)
Hey Rocco,
Way to go! I agree with you completely! Keep threads seperate, that is the
point of having threads. I have been trying to avoid the color threads (that
doesn't sound right...oh well) but have been reading the new castle products
thread. I have been ready to bail out on that if turned into a color change
thread too. Thanks for your post!
Josh
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Rocco,
I think you need to reread my original post. It was about the Castle line. I used
the color issue to point out that rumors of Castle demise were perfectly
understandable.
Reread, and chill out. It's not your thread, you don't own it, anyone can actually
post anything they want in it at long as it meets ToS. That's beside the point,
though, since my post was ON topic.
Rocco J Carello wrote:
> > For those of us who are concerned about this colour change issue, Thomas
> > message is pertinent enough to deserve belonging to this thread (or any
> > other for that matter).
>
> I could be wrong, but I don't think it's okay to hijack any thread you want with
> color complaints. No message is that important. That just seems like simple
> posting etiquette.
>
> What is the point of starting a thread to discuss a topic if the replies can be
> on any subject under the sun? If people are going to do that, we may as well
> just have monkeys banging on keyboards. The purpose of having a threaded
> newsgroup is to make it easier for people to read about topics they are
> interested in and skip the ones they aren't.
>
> Jake started two threads. One for discussing the color issues, and one for
> discussing the castle sets. Don't you think the the color complaints would be
> more effective in the proper thread? If I was going to post opinions about the
> replacement colors, I know I would want to post in a thread where people are
> actually discussing the issue instead of creating noise in unrelated threads.
>
> > TLC doesn't deserve my confidence anymore and, almost any rumour will
> > start to make sense from now on.
>
> The new Castle sets are going to have Belville style figures with bat-wing
> helmets and trans-orange flames in their mouths. There is going to be a new
> catapult with spiked wheels like on the WarCraft computer games. There will also
> be new elf minifigs that work in a medieval bakery and make cookies. There will
> be two large castles, one for each of the two main factions. When you put the
> flag of one faction onto the roof of the other faction's keep, it will play "O
> Fortuna" from a little speaker under the drawbridge.
>
> > Maybe you don't feel that way, but changing a basic color like (light)
> > grey, is just a thing that *could not* happen.
>
> Maybe it should not happen, but it most certainly could.
>
> > Therefore, please excuse the ones of us
> > that feeling offended and betrayed just can't get over it.
>
> I'm not telling anybody how to feel. It's okay to feel offended, betrayed, and
> unable to get over it.
>
> ... but it's still off topic.
>
> I could tell you how I feel about the color changes, but that would be off
> topic. I could tell you that they've changed a basic color like Red in the past,
> but that would be off topic too. I could tell you that Ancestral Recall is a
> powerful blue instant in Magic: the Gathering, but I would still be off topic.
> In fact, this whole message is off topic.
>
> Now, to try getting back on topic:
> I'm looking forward to the 2004 Castle Products. If they are well designed and
> priced fairly for their quality, I will buy them. If I don't think they are
> worth my money, I won't buy them. I can't really say anything else until I have
> more information, but that O Fortuna thing sounds pretty cool.
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