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"Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message news:GCMJot.E07@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Tim Courtney writes:
> > I'm still mixed, between the need for an update, and the understanding that • this
> > is a volunteer project that no one gets paid for, though.
>
> I'm not understanding here. The parts are available in file form in a some
> cluster in some repository somewhere, yes? Publishing them, even in an
> unofficial process, would simply consist of putting them on a server. There
> would be little-to-no work needed, just making the files available and maybe
> writing up a 2-line disclaimer concerning quality and unreviewd parts.
> Hell, you could make this part of the review (preview?) process! Why is
> being paid for this an issue?
Kinda unrelated statement, I intended it to reflect more the project as a whole.
I think (and I accept that this will never be the case) that the whole community
would be better off if volunteers were paid (well, then they wouldn't be
volunteers, would they?)
I do it out of my free time because I want to, but I get burned out. When I get
burned out, people still put high expectations on me. They need to understand
its volunteer and not put too high of an expectation on results.
The same with the others who work on the project. We've got other stuff going
on. This isn't our job. If this *was* our job, things would be better for the
community, because we would have to perform to earn our wage and then more
things would be made available.
However, because of the nature of LDraw, the legal issues with TLC, etc, this
won't happen. That's fine. I've made my point (and now I think I should give
it a rest). So I will.
And I will still continue to volunteer my time and effort, but in exchange I
would appreciate it if users would try to understand the nature of the project
and be patient. I've always made it open to more volunteers (and I've gotta
work this week on managing some of that, which I will).
-Tim
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Tim Courtney writes:
> And I will still continue to volunteer my time and effort, but in exchange I
> would appreciate it if users would try to understand the nature of the project
> and be patient. I've always made it open to more volunteers (and I've gotta
> work this week on managing some of that, which I will).
This isn't really a matter of patience; it's been far too long than it needs
to be. We need a better system. In the mean-time, the factors contributing
to the delay can be addressed, and quickly.
e.g. What are the factors holding back the parts? If it's quality, slap on
a disclaimer. Call it an unsupported preview.
If it's getting authors' permission, let them know you're posting the parts
and give 'em a day to respond.
If it's the effort to distribute, heck, put them in a bare, readable HTTP
directory a la CPAN.
People, including myself, are getting pretty impatient with the system.
Parts authors must be getting upset that their works have no audience. This
doesn't have to be difficult.
Cheers,
- jsproat
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I've been playing with ldraw and all it's wonderful part for only a short
time now. What I don't understand in this discussion is what is the
difference in an 'offical' vs 'unoffical' part. Apart from whewre I can
download offical part what is different? Will my MLCAD crash if I use an
unoffical part? Will L3P and/or L3PAO crash? Will POV-Ray *NOT* Render them?
If the answer to these questions are NO, which I think they are as I have
been using the 9v train track piece in some of my .dat files and none of
these have happened then what is all the big deal about? It is just a
'quality' issue? If that is the case, what is meant by quality?
Thanks and all the authors who make parts keep up the good work!
Ahui
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