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Re: Color scheme in Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern?
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Mon, 12 Jul 2004 13:58:14 GMT
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   In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Willy Tschager wrote:
   up to now we have two samples of this part:




Ok, which looks “right”? This:



or this:



C’mon. It’s classic space, not Power Rangers (or Knights Kingdom). There are no light blue spacemen or spaceships in classic space. The moon is not made of bleu cheese. Look with the eyes of a 10 year old and tell me it’s not supposed to be white.

  
   I have the part, so I’ve been holding off commenting until I can look at it. But I lack patience, so... In my mind, I remember the part as having shades of white and grey on the questionable bits. Therefore the light blue just plain looks wrong to me. I do have the Tigura beast in front of me and it’s clearly printed with a large patch of white with a bit of the orange bleeding through from the plastic underneath. I’d model that as white, not light orange.

My guess is the extreme white you see in the picture is the same printing as the “blue-white”. It’s just brighter there because it overlaps the earlier grey printing pass. This misregistering of the printing passes will look different on every part and should not be represented in the model.

I disagree on the overlap. if this is really a misregistering of the printing passes the white border would have the same size in all areas, while the white line on the rocket is much wider than the one on the helmet or the craters.

So misregistering was a problem. Then perhaps the light grey was purposely overprinted a bit in some spots, not to create a whiter white, but to avoid ugly blue gaps between white and light grey due to printing errors. You can see a bit of what they were trying to avoid on the bottom right corner and the right side of the rocket on the 2nd scan.

   before I started designing the part I also considered this being an overlap (it would have saved a lot of time an effort just declare it as an error) but IMO there ARE white borders around the craters, minifig and the rest.

   I remember having a second version of this part I couldn’t use as a basis for the re-engeneering because of its REAL overlap. I’ll post a scan if I find it.

Yes, please do.

In lugnet.cad.dat.parts, Chris Dee wrote:
   I have now located my copy of this part. The areas you mention defintely have a feint blue coloration. I believe this is deliberate, as I can make out the regular pattern of screening dots. This is most obvious on the larger areas, but I believe it does carry over into the border of the main image and the numbers and borders at the top.

Did you flip the brick over and examine the texture? It’s not as rough as these slopes, but it has a similar effect. The finer texture simply makes for much finer blue spots.



We didn’t model the blue spots on these slopes, and we shouldn’t model them on the spacelaunch brick. We didn’t model the blue spots on the grey part of the helmet (see top scan) and we shouldn’t model them on the white just because it bleeds a bit more.

Considerably over my two cent limit now, but hey, I’m a fanatic...

Don



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  Re: Color scheme in Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern?
 
(...) The surface of this brick is perfectly smooth, so the blue pattern I see is not caused by brick texture, but by the screen printing process. Nevertheless, looking at the two mock-ups, I think the white version is closer to what it "should" (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
  Re: Color scheme in Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern?
 
(...) The first, definitely. Also, looking at the second scanned image (sorry, I snipped it from this reply), the white 'seam' down the side of the astronaut's helmet appears to be strictly a printing defect - the white ink is positioned slightly (...) (20 years ago, 12-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
  Re: Color scheme in Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern?
 
(...) (2 URLs) check this out. instead of 505 I just used a costum, dithered color with: 255 255 255 255 193 169 it is obvious to me that it's just a lack of LDraw colors ... (...) honey bunny, you are totally wrong on this side ;-) it's not at all (...) (20 years ago, 14-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)

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  Re: Color scheme in Brick 1 x 6 x 5 with Rocket Launch Pattern?
 
(...) hm ... this is in tune with steve (initially I used light blue 9): "Yes, I think it would work better to use color 503 (light gray from Mosaic) instead of light blue. If those zones are really a vary light shade of blue, you could try 505 (...) (20 years ago, 11-Jul-04, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts)

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