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Re: The future of LDraw?
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Sat, 20 Mar 2010 14:03:32 GMT
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In lugnet.cad, Dave Schuler wrote:
In lugnet.cad, Timothy Gould wrote:

That information isn't there for the end users. It's there for the people
volunteering their time to make the parts. As Philo said it's very easy to add
automatically with DATHeader and thus next to no effort for the parts editors
but it is a good source of credit for those that have donated their time.

Likewise the legal issues may seem superfluous but with the new license the
parts library is finally legally able to be used and distributed in a more
verstile way. That's a good thing.

The trick for the parts library is finding a balance between parts that are
perfect for the user (including being consistent) and parts that are easy to
develop. _Possibly_ there is too much focus on the former but it's got little to
do with the mostly non-issues you raise.

Non-issues to you, perhaps.  To an outsider, they are symptomatic of a big
exercise in narcissism.

Possibly so but I'm of the opinion that those that make and share the parts are
entitled to some narcissism. And I speak having done minimal part authoring in
quite some time (due to laziness) so it's not self-interest at work.

--snip--

Your analogy isn't really a fair one IMO as the ST club is not actually creating
anything for others to use. I see your point but I'm not sure it entirely
applies here.

I'm not diminishing the efforts of the parts authors, nor am I writing this out
of thin air; I've personally authored well over 1,000 parts that will never be
included in the LDraw library.  That is, I *know* how difficult the authoring
process can be.

But how much of that difficulty stems from making the part and how much comes
from filling in a few lines in the header? I've authored a bunch of parts myself
(both easy and hard) and I've simply never had trouble (well OK I have but Chris
has fixed them on the Part Tracker).

I've spoken with at least three other people who find the hyper-legalistic
process equally off-putting, and I'm confident that we're not the only four who
think so.  Part of the question in the OP was about why people have drifted
away, and I've given an answer.

You may dismiss it as a non-issue if you wish.

I shall continue to do so I'm afraid until I understand why it's an issue. As I
said above I just don't understand why a few lines in a header make such a big
difference. And I'm honestly not being obtuse here either. I'm ready to change
my opinion if I understand and agree with what you're saying. I feel I must be
missing something.

Tim



Message has 2 Replies:
  Re: The future of LDraw?
 
(...) It is an issue IMO. Probably a small one compared to other ones, but it's the sum of real or subjective obstacles that makes me worried about recruiting new LDraw authors. What I believe is the biggest issue is nobody's fault: All the easy, (...) (14 years ago, 20-Mar-10, to lugnet.cad)
  Re: The future of LDraw?
 
(...) Well, I singled out the header-code not as the problem in itself but as symptomatic of a shift that's taken place over a period of years. I don't know how else to say it without sounding petty, and I'm absolutely not singling out any one (...) (14 years ago, 20-Mar-10, to lugnet.cad)

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  Re: The future of LDraw?
 
(...) Non-issues to you, perhaps. To an outsider, they are symptomatic of a big exercise in narcissism. Decades ago, when I was without a tv but hoping to see the "Spock" episode of ST:TNG, a friend and I went to Penn State's Star Trek club. They (...) (14 years ago, 20-Mar-10, to lugnet.cad)

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