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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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I love your promo photo with the real and Lego church next to each other.
Having seen this church in the brick at 1000steine land I have to say that its
worth a first, second, third and even more looks. My favourite details are the
cross and the mixing of dark bley and grey in the original brick section but the
whole thing is really full of favourites.
Tim
PS. Im still happy to render the underground bit if you send me an ldraw file
of it.
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
Stunning. Absolutely stunning.
One of the most beautiful MOCs Ive ever seen. Well done!!
JohnG, GMLTC
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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Wow, thats incredible. Beautiful and breathtaking. What a nice way to start my
morning, coffee and an inspiring build to look at.
Spotlit.
Janey Red Brick
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That is an awsome MOC, a few times I couldnt tell the model from the real one
in the Brickshelf thumbnail pictures. The detail work is wonderful! I would love
to see it in person some day.
jt
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
Überraschen. Simply amazing. To say well done would be an understatement
indeed! The quality of your work (and your character) are a true inspiration to
me, HoMa. Thank you for giving us this marvelous MOC!
I dont know what it is about Germany (im Wasser?;-) but the MOCs coming from
there are unparrelled! Send me a bottle:-d
I am going to coin a new phrase to go along with Ashcan worthy: Park worthy,
as in good enough to be dropped off into any Legoland park. Your MOC is park
worthy!
JOHN
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Very nice model!
When we visited Dresden in June 2004, the church was still under construction,
but largely finished on the outside. There was actually a large Lego model of
the Frauenkirche in one of the local department stores (Kaufhof? Karstadt?). I
believe it had been used for fundraising--buy a brick to support the rebuilding
or something like that. I dont remember the exact details, but you could
probably find pictures by poking around on the web. I do think the scale was
pretty close to what you did.
Not to detract from your work--this is a beautiful model of a wonderful
structure!
Alan
In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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In March 2006 I managed to visit the church and after seeing all the old and
new bircks I decided to build my own LEGO model mostly using tan and dark
grey for the facade.
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Holger, wheres the part in your message where you admit that you actually work
for LEGO, and that youre responsible for some of the large structures in the
various Minilands in the LEGOLAND theme parks around the world? :)
-Bryan
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
Amazing. Jaw droppingly, amazing.
I am clicking along, studying every image, wondering what I am going to say in
respose to your post. What clever thought or comment could I contribute?
I continue clicking along . . . .
and, then I see you did an interior, as well.
I quit. I am going home.
Fantastic job!
Jonathan
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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Hi all,
between March and mid August I build a scaled model of the Frauenkirche in
Dresden (Church of our lady). The real church was nearly fully destroyed in
the last days of WW II and encouraged people decided after the german
reunification in the 1990s to collect money worldwide and to rebuild this
baroque building with the eye-catching sandstone dome.
The construction around the the darker parts of the ruin where finished last
year in October and there was I big celebration while the Frauenkirche was
reopend for the public.
In March 2006 I managed to visit the church and after seeing all the old and
new bircks I decided to build my own LEGO model mostly using tan and dark
grey for the facade.
For a more detailed report on the church and the building process please feel
free to surf to: http://www.holgermatthes.de/frauenkirche/en/
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Wow!
This is what I think of doing when I happen to pass a really nice castle or
bridge, or when I see an airplane or som unusual or colorful heavy vehicle. I am
stunned to see the result of this thought being executed to its full conclusion.
Thankyou very much for this inspirational eyefeast!
(I still have a long way to go on my 1:20 PBY-5A Catalina seaplane model)
Olof
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
Wow. I am speachless. when one clicks on a link, unsure of if it is a reference
shot, or the model. You know it is a job well done. The attention to detail is
amazing, as is the multitude of different building styles.
I am a fan of rendering real buildings out of lego, and this rates as one of my
all time favorites. I will be spending the day going through each picture, and
learning from the different styles.
And here i am thinking no one would ever beat the Santa Maria della Salute model
, my previous favorite. Trust you to one up yourself :)
Aaron A
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
This kind of great work is one of the reasons I no longer make MOCs!! :-)
Great detail work and quite the eye for details. I bet you would be able to
make an awesome real life ship or plane at this rate.
If it werent for the real life people and background buildings in the left hand
shot, I would have been hard pressed to tell you which one was real and which
was memorex!
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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There are good MOCs, and there are GOOD MOCs. This definitely falls in the
latter.
HoMa: I wish that I had both the bricks and the patience to build a MOC such as
yours. Your detailing and part selection is excellent. I second John Neal, this
is most Parkworthy!
And now, I will gaze and admire your work. Thank you.
Big Daddy Nelson
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Holger,
Kurz gesagt, Ausgezeichnet!!
Dresdens Frauenkirche (also its Cathedral), was Germanys largest (as-built)
Lutheran Cathedral. The originals photos give little clue to the massive scale
of the building. Its like stepping inside an 18 story atrium.
The original, an 18th century Baroque masterpiece, survived for 2 centuries
until 13 February 1945, when (mostly) British and US bombers started their
carpet bombing of Dresden near the end of the war. The ensuing firestorm so
depleted the oxygen supply that 245,000 Germans (mostly women, children and
elderly) died in a senseless conflagration (Dresden was not a military target).
This was a one day greater loss of life than from the atomic bombs dropped on
either Hiroshima or Nagasaki.
The British bombers later very much regretted their action (although during war
times, orders were orders), and had been haunted by it for decades. Part of the
rebuilding of the Cathedral was donated by the the fundraising activities of
surviving British bombers and their children. The top of the cathedral was a
gift of the British people.
Luckily during the war, most of Dresdens vast treasures, artwork, furniture and
entire palace rooms (of the Dukes, Electors and Kings of Saxony) were hidden in
distant bunkers. After the war the communist East Germans rebuilt the city, the
vast city palace, known as the Dresden Zwinger, and the fabulous Dresden
Semper Opera House.
But the atheist government refused to rebuild the cathedral, and it remained a
ruin for over 40 years, until after German Reunification in 1990. Rebuilding
was started so that it could be completed for Dresdens 800th Birthday in 2006.
Holger, now you have to build the neighboring Zwinger and Semper Opernhaus out
of Lego! :-)
Ein Lego Meisterwerk der Deutscher Barocke!
Gary Istok
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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Hi all,
between March and mid August I build a scaled model of the Frauenkirche in
Dresden (Church of our lady). The real church was nearly fully destroyed in
the last days of WW II and encouraged people decided after the german
reunification in the 1990s to collect money worldwide and to rebuild this
baroque building with the eye-catching sandstone dome.
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HoMa, this is incredible! Is there any chance it will be at Bricking Bavaria or
LEGOWorld?
Derek
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HoMa, this is incredible! Is there any chance it will be at Bricking Bavaria
or LEGOWorld?
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Hi Derek,
I am not going to LEGOWORLD in the Netherlands but I plan to go to Bricking
Bavaria. 1000steine.de doesnt say the date for Bricking Bavaria on its main
page. But it seems it will be Friday, 8th - Sunday 10th December 2006.
Are you (and your mom ;-)) planning to come over? Would be just great!
Holger
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Hi Gary,
many thanks for your bi-lingual feedback and comments!
While gathering information I used several websites and two nice books. I know
most of the whole history of the church right now. Even when it was build in the
18th century the folks didnt know how it would look like in the end.
It was planned to make the big dome as a wooden construction covered with
copper. While building higher and higher they realized the enormous costs. So
theyve decided to use sandstone instead of copper. That caused trouble with the
stability and statics of the main columns and the other walls of the church. In
the 20th century they did lots of repairs to keep the church alive.
Modern CAD technic helped to plan the new rebuild Frauenkirche and I hope it
will be there for many many years. The color will change and within 100 years
all the tan sandstone will become darker. Perhaps I have to rebuild the church
in 2106 in old and new darkgrey?
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Holger, now you have to build the neighboring Zwinger and Semper Opernhaus
out of Lego! :-)
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First of all I have to finish the inside with more benches, altar and organ.
Should I go on and google for zwinger and Semper Opera?
Holger
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Hi Nelson,
Thank you to you and the other for your nice feedbacks!
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HoMa: I wish that I had both the bricks and the patience to build a MOC such
as yours. Your detailing and part selection is excellent. I second John Neal,
this is most Parkworthy!
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It is not only patience which you need. The timeframe was tight and I wanted to
get the church done before the 1000steine-Land. For example the dome-module was
build within 2 days. Day 1 was more like working out the sizes and building
prototype parts. Day 2 was the building and copying day.
Parkworthy? That doesnt mean that I have to clue and paint the church now ;-)
Holger
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Hi Bob,
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This kind of great work is one of the reasons I no longer make MOCs!! :-)
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What will you do? Build sets? Sell all you LEGO? ... just kidding!
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Great detail work and quite the eye for details. I bet you would be able to
make an awesome real life ship or plane at this rate.
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I havent thought about a ship or plane. But I guess there is so many other cool
things out in this world which could be converted into the ABS format.
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If it werent for the real life people and background buildings in the left
hand shot, I would have been hard pressed to tell you which one was real and
which was memorex!
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Good incidence that the grey clouds and the corner of my living room come so
close together colorwise. If you compare the minifig with the real life people
you see that the church in minifig scale even should have been double the size
as the model is right now. Would be too much for a transportable MOC which you
build in you normal room with normal height.
Holger
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Hi Aaron,
thank you for your feedback as well. And yes, feel free to use these pictures as
a reference for your own creations. I allways try to start with a very
characteristic detail or area of a building. The tall windows with the double
arches where my starting point. And then try to close to the original as
possible. That helps to reduce the various styles you can put your bricks
together.
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And here i am thinking no one would ever beat the Santa Maria della Salute
model , my previous favorite. Trust you to one up yourself :)
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For me it was good to have done the Santa Maria della Salute before starting the
Frauenkirche. So I learnt lots about statics and how to modularize the model for
easy and save transport.
The Santa Maria is also still there. I could set them up both together :-)
Holger
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Hi Olof,
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(I still have a long way to go on my 1:20 PBY-5A Catalina seaplane model)
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Thanks for you feedback! The PBY-5A Catalina seems to be a challenge. There is
hardly any normal LEGO plate like surface:
http://www.luftfahrt.net/galerie/new/bilder/1154461579_G-PBYA.jpg (bigger
picture)
But do not show any sneak previews. Take some shots while building and then
surprise us with the finally finished MOC and some making offs.
Holger
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Haha, I had to laugh while reading you answer. Thanks, Jonathan!
Holger
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Holger, wheres the part in your message where you admit that you actually
work for LEGO, and that youre responsible for some of the large structures
in the various Minilands in the LEGOLAND theme parks around the world? :)
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Hi Bryan,
no, you didnt miss that part. But in fact last year I (and some other LEGO
fans) had the chance to display some MOCs in LEGOLAND Germany. So my LEGO Venice
was located near LEGOLANDs Venice.
Holger
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Hi Alan,
thanks for you feedback.
I knew that there was allready a LEGO model of the church for fundraising. At
flickr.com I found this:
I contacted LEGO if they know what happend to this model - but they dont know.
These days it is not displayed in the department store any more. I didnt found
much information on the other model, so I dont know if it has a fully build
interior?
But the scale is probably double the scale Ive used in my model. I think this
model was more then 3 m in height. Mine is only 1,45 m.
Holger
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Hi John fareaway friend!
I am happy that my Überraschung (surprise) worked well. I really prefer to
build a MOC first and then showing it online or at events. We had to many fans
at the Germany forum saying and showing work in progress pics of their MOCs. To
some extend they stopped and - who knows? - never finished their MOCs.
I think I didnt get the Wasser-thing right? But no, I wont ship this church to
you or someone else ;-)
Coming up with schleiming-parkworthy is a cool idea. But keep in mind that this
MOC is moreless minifig scale and not modelland scale form the LEGOLAND parks.
And I will not glue or paint it. What about set-worthy for smaller creations?
And generally speaking I hope pictures online will get more and more
online-worthy: http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=203262
Keep on schleiming,
Holger
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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Hi John fareaway friend!
I am happy that my Überraschung (surprise) worked well.
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lol yet another translation error on my part (schleim/rotz:-) I really meant
amazing-- curse the on-line translators! (but they provide good humor; just at
my expense;-)
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I really prefer to
build a MOC first and then showing it online or at events. We had to many
fans at the Germany forum saying and showing work in progress pics of their
MOCs. To some extend they stopped and - who knows? - never finished their
MOCs.
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I, too. Its a lot more dramatic.
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I think I didnt get the Wasser-thing right? But no, I wont ship this church
to you or someone else ;-)
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Perhaps that is only an American expression. If, for instance, 2 women in the
same workplace were to get pregnant around the same time, one might joke about
something that is in the drinking water that is getting all of the women
pregnant. My point was that there are so many amazing MOC builders in Germany
that perhaps it might be due to something in the German drinking water:-)
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Coming up with schleiming-parkworthy is a cool idea. But keep in mind that
this MOC is moreless minifig scale and not modelland scale form the LEGOLAND
parks. And I will not glue or paint it. What about set-worthy for smaller
creations?
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Well, remember, not all buildings at Legoland are miniland scale-- the
best example Ive ever seen is in your neck of the woods:-)
Good post; I agree!
Schleim on!
JOHN
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
I feel like I could walk right out of life and into this creation.
Become a minifigure and see this masterpiece.
Integrated into the MOC. Living in the MOC. That is a beautiful creation to
take us out of this life put us into the MOC.
later,
James Mathis
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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I am not going to LEGOWORLD in the Netherlands but I plan to go to Bricking
Bavaria. 1000steine.de doesnt say the date for Bricking Bavaria on its main
page. But it seems it will be Friday, 8th - Sunday 10th December 2006.
Are you (and your mom ;-)) planning to come over? Would be just great!
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Holger,
Actually, Im already here--Ive been in Garmisch-Parternkirchen for over a week
now and I dont go back to the US until 16 December. So yes, I will be going to
Bricking Bavaria! Any idea when more information about it will come out? Hmmm,
I should ask this question at 1000steine.de...
Derek
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In lugnet.events, Derek Schin wrote:
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In lugnet.build.arch, Holger Matthes wrote:
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I am not going to LEGOWORLD in the Netherlands but I plan to go to Bricking
Bavaria. 1000steine.de doesnt say the date for Bricking Bavaria on its
main page. But it seems it will be Friday, 8th - Sunday 10th December
2006.
Are you (and your mom ;-)) planning to come over? Would be just great!
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Holger,
Actually, Im already here--Ive been in Garmisch-Parternkirchen for over a
week now and I dont go back to the US until 16 December. So yes, I will be
going to Bricking Bavaria! Any idea when more information about it will come
out? Hmmm, I should ask this question at 1000steine.de...
Derek
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Hi Derek,
the organizers of Bricking Bavaria (BB) havent announced the event officially
yet, but as Holger said, to pencel in the 2nd Advent Weekend is definitely a
good idea. I will solicit the organizers over there, on 1000steine.de, to make
an official announcement soon and to crosspost it also in lugnet.events and
lugnet.loc.de
Leg Godt!
Rene
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