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New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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Greetings.

This is a scale model of the Maumee River Crossing bridge, a cable-stayed bridge currently under construction in Toledo, Ohio, USA.

In this picture it is only 70 percent complete (14 of 20 cables), and measures 9.5 feet long (2.9 meters). When completed, it will be 13.5 feet long (4.1 meters). The main pylon will reach 4.5 feet high (1.4 meters). The roadbed is 52 studs wide, and ranges from 0.3 bricks thick (a plate) to 3.7 bricks thick (three bricks and two plates). All pieces are LEGO(r) except for the cables, which are nylon string.

There are 11,110 parts in the main span, and probably another 500 or so in the main pylon.

This bridge is part of my educational LEGO(r) work. More info on that is at my Web site, http://www.BricksForBrains.com

Enjoy!




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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:
   Greetings.

This is a scale model of the Maumee River Crossing bridge, a cable-stayed bridge currently under construction in Toledo, Ohio, USA.

Nice. Spotlighted.

Is this the bridge project that’s causing all the snaky I-280 detours? The shape of the bottom roadway seems to suggest it is...


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:
   Greetings.

This is a scale model of the Maumee River Crossing bridge, a cable-stayed bridge currently under construction in Toledo, Ohio, USA.

Nice. Spotlighted.

Is this the bridge project that’s causing all the snaky I-280 detours? The shape of the bottom roadway seems to suggest it is...

Thanks, Larry, I appreciate that.

Yes, you picked it out, that’s the one. I feel like I’m driving in one of those urban Grand Prix races when I drive through there.

It looks like my model will soon be put on display at the field office for the construction effort, which is at the South end of the bridge, just a block to the SW from Tony Packos. Either there or somewhere else local where people can see it.


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:

   In this picture it is only 70 percent complete (14 of 20 cables), and measures 9.5 feet long (2.9 meters).

Duane-

Well, we’ve still got you for the moment. Ours is 384 studs long, which is slightly over 10 feet.



Nice job! Looking forward to seeing the completed work.

-Ted


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Ted Michon wrote:

   Well, we’ve still got you for the moment. Ours is 384 studs long, which is slightly over 10 feet.



Could you check that link? it appears to be broken. Thanks!


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:
In lugnet.build, Ted Michon wrote:

<<http://scltc.org/images/galleries/events/2004.12.26.e/mic.025.jpg>>

Could you check that link? it appears to be broken. Thanks!

Worked for me at least...

--
Anders Isaksson, Sweden
BlockCAD:  http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/proglego.htm
Gallery:   http://web.telia.com/~u16122508/gallery/index.htm


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Ted Michon wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:

   In this picture it is only 70 percent complete (14 of 20 cables), and measures 9.5 feet long (2.9 meters).

Duane-

Well, we’ve still got you for the moment. Ours is 384 studs long, which is slightly over 10 feet.



Nice job! Looking forward to seeing the completed work.

-Ted

Wow, very nice! They sure do make attactive bridges, don’t they? I can see why they’re popping up all over the world these days.


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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Thu, 5 May 2005 19:04:51 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

  
  

Could you check that link? it appears to be broken. Thanks!

Seems to be working in your message. Or did you mean something else? Perhaps the SCLTC server was tied up or your access to it was thwarted when you tried?

-Ted


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:

   Wow, very nice! They sure do make attactive bridges, don’t they? I can see why they’re popping up all over the world these days.

Duane-

The funny thing is that cable stayed bridges are not “new”. They’ve been popping up all over the world since WWII. They just haven’t been as common in the US where our aesthetic sense in public works is always overridden to save a dime (or perhaps fatten a contractor’s wallet).

My understanding is the cable stayed bridges were important in post war Europe as a means to build a lot of bridges quickly. One very nice feature is that since they are completely supported by their towers (unlike a suspension bridge, which requires towers and massive cable anchors), they can be built in one spot -- and then moved! When I visited Dusseldorf in 1976, they had just moved a major cable stayed bridge into position the previous weekend. The procedure is to build the new bridge next to the old, keeping the old in service. Then, temporarily reroute traffic to the new bridge. Then demolish the old and setup the site. Then slide the new into the old position, typically in a matter of hours or days. Then reroute to the new bridge. Total traffic down time: hours or days!

-Ted


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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Thu, 5 May 2005 19:48:06 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:
   Greetings.

This is a scale model of the Maumee River Crossing bridge, a cable-stayed bridge currently under construction in Toledo, Ohio, USA.

In this picture it is only 70 percent complete (14 of 20 cables), and measures 9.5 feet long (2.9 meters). When completed, it will be 13.5 feet long (4.1 meters). The main pylon will reach 4.5 feet high (1.4 meters). The roadbed is 52 studs wide, and ranges from 0.3 bricks thick (a plate) to 3.7 bricks thick (three bricks and two plates). All pieces are LEGO(r) except for the cables, which are nylon string.

There are 11,110 parts in the main span, and probably another 500 or so in the main pylon.

This bridge is part of my educational LEGO(r) work. More info on that is at my Web site, http://www.BricksForBrains.com

Enjoy!



So you’re the genious who made it! Very nice! I’ve was looking at the pics you have up on BrickShelf a few days ago and been wondering about it.

Gotta few q’s-

About the roadway: will it be tiles or schleim’ed?

Will you be posting more pics of the deck construction? A closer view of the ends would be nice.

Thanks,

Adr.


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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Thu, 5 May 2005 20:00:51 GMT
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In lugnet.build, Ted Michon wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

  
  

Could you check that link? it appears to be broken. Thanks!

Seems to be working in your message. Or did you mean something else? Perhaps the SCLTC server was tied up or your access to it was thwarted when you tried?

Ya, prolly that. Sorry!


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Adrian Egli wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:
   Greetings.

This is a scale model of the Maumee River Crossing bridge, a cable-stayed bridge currently under construction in Toledo, Ohio, USA.

In this picture it is only 70 percent complete (14 of 20 cables), and measures 9.5 feet long (2.9 meters). When completed, it will be 13.5 feet long (4.1 meters). The main pylon will reach 4.5 feet high (1.4 meters). The roadbed is 52 studs wide, and ranges from 0.3 bricks thick (a plate) to 3.7 bricks thick (three bricks and two plates). All pieces are LEGO(r) except for the cables, which are nylon string.

There are 11,110 parts in the main span, and probably another 500 or so in the main pylon.

This bridge is part of my educational LEGO(r) work. More info on that is at my Web site, http://www.BricksForBrains.com

Enjoy!



So you’re the genious who made it! Very nice! I’ve was looking at the pics you have up on BrickShelf a few days ago and been wondering about it.

Gotta few q’s-

About the roadway: will it be tiles or schleim’ed?

Will you be posting more pics of the deck construction? A closer view of the ends would be nice.

Thanks,

Adr.

Thank you for the kind words.

I started pricing tiles for the roadway, and it looked like it was getting into several hunderd dollars, so I shelved that idea.

You’ll have to fill me in on what “schleim’ed” means!

I dind’t get any other pics, since my digital camera is very old and not good at close-ups, but I will this weekend at House of Bricks and then post them. I’ll also scan some of the plans I got from the field office so you’ll be able to see my construction and the original plans side by side.

Thanks again!


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:

   I started pricing tiles for the roadway, and it looked like it was getting into several hunderd dollars, so I shelved that idea.

You’ll have to fill me in on what “schleim’ed” means!

SNOT construction.(1) Turned sideways, presumably.

See this LUCNY thread on road building, for example.

1 - Studs Not on Top. Schleim is German slang for mucus. Blame J2 for popularizing it by making up T shirts...


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:

   I started pricing tiles for the roadway, and it looked like it was getting into several hunderd dollars, so I shelved that idea.

You’ll have to fill me in on what “schleim’ed” means!

SNOT construction.(1) Turned sideways, presumably.

See this LUCNY thread on road building, for example.

1 - Studs Not on Top. Schleim is German slang for mucus. Blame J2 for popularizing it by making up T shirts...


Ick.

These shirts are more suitable for public viewing while not ruining people’s appetite: http://www.cafepress.com/bricksforbrains/598076


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:

   I started pricing tiles for the roadway, and it looked like it was getting into several hunderd dollars, so I shelved that idea.

You’ll have to fill me in on what “schleim’ed” means!

SNOT construction.(1) Turned sideways, presumably.

See this LUCNY thread on road building, for example.

1 - Studs Not on Top. Schleim is German slang for mucus. Blame J2 for popularizing it by making up T shirts...


Ick.

These shirts are more suitable for public viewing while not ruining people’s appetite: http://www.cafepress.com/bricksforbrains/598076


Oh, but I digressed -- the answer to your question is “neither”... it’s just studs-up.


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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"Ted Michon" <ted@scltc.org> writes:

In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:

In this picture it is only 70 percent complete (14 of 20 cables), and
measures 9.5 feet long (2.9 meters).

Duane-

Well, we've still got you for the moment. Ours is 384 studs long, which is
slightly over 10 feet.

<<http://scltc.org/images/galleries/events/2004.12.26.e/mic.025.jpg>>

Nice job! Looking forward to seeing the completed work.

Oooh - a "mine is bigger than yours" contest! (Sorry, couldn't resist!).

The design is different, but at our latest GETS show, NALUG's Laszlo
Szojka showed a 17-foot bridge using a similar cable technique:

    http://www.nalug.org/TrainShow2004/Suspension/index.html

Not quite the classic cable-stay design, but similar.

--
Experience should guide us, not rule us.

Chris Gray     cg@ami-cg.GraySage.COM
               http://www.GraySage.COM/cg/


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Chris Gray wrote:
"Ted Michon" <ted@scltc.org> writes:

In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:


Oooh - a "mine is bigger than yours" contest! (Sorry, couldn't resist!).

The design is different, but at our latest GETS show, NALUG's Laszlo
Szojka showed a 17-foot bridge using a similar cable technique:

    http://www.nalug.org/TrainShow2004/Suspension/index.html

Not quite the classic cable-stay design, but similar.


Wow, very nice! I also like the shark feeding frenzy!


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:
   Greetings.

This is a scale model of the Maumee River Crossing bridge, a cable-stayed bridge currently under construction in Toledo, Ohio, USA.

The pictures don’t do it justice. It was pretty impressive live.


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Felix Greco wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Duane Collicott wrote:
   Greetings.

This is a scale model of the Maumee River Crossing bridge, a cable-stayed bridge currently under construction in Toledo, Ohio, USA.

The pictures don’t do it justice. It was pretty impressive live.

I’ll say.

I don’t think I’ve EVER seen a MOC so big that it “shaded” other MOCs!


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Re: New MOC - Giant cable-stayed bridge
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In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

  
   The pictures don’t do it justice.

I don’t think I’ve EVER seen a MOC so big that it “shaded” other MOCs!



It was amazing - since I was right next to him during the build, it was fun to watch too. Other than my one tall GBC module, we could have run most of the GBC right under it in its shadow, with plenty of room left over.

-- Brian Davis


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In lugnet.build, Brian Davis wrote:
   In lugnet.build, Larry Pieniazek wrote:

  
   The pictures don’t do it justice.

I don’t think I’ve EVER seen a MOC so big that it “shaded” other MOCs!



It was amazing - since I was right next to him during the build, it was fun to watch too. Other than my one tall GBC module, we could have run most of the GBC right under it in its shadow, with plenty of room left over.

Thank you for your kinds words, gentelmen!

I THOROUGHLY enjoyed my first AFOL event and look forward to many more!


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In lugnet.build, Chris Gray wrote:
   Oooh - a “mine is bigger than yours” contest! (Sorry, couldn’t resist!).

The design is different, but at our latest GETS show, NALUG’s Laszlo Szojka showed a 17-foot bridge using a similar cable technique:

http://www.nalug.org/TrainShow2004/Suspension/index.html

Chris-

I meant to get back to this message sooner, but I was hip deep in our weekend show at Fullerton. I love this NALUG bridge. If immitation is the sincerest form of flattery, consider that design in the queue to have its double deck construction copied!

Meanwhile, back to the “my dog’s better than yours”: Last time we stayed at Hotel LEGOLAND, we would head down to the LEGO room each night when most guests had gone to bed and build somethimg BIG. One item was, if I recall right, an 18 foot long flat deck bridge completely supported from below by two towers. Our criteria for doing great was to make something so awesome that the hotel staff would not take it apart during the daily cleanup. Of course, the first round of little kinders in the morning that arrived without parents would have things in megapieces in seconds.

-Ted


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"Ted Michon" <ted@scltc.org> writes:

I meant to get back to this message sooner, but I was hip deep in our weekend
show at Fullerton. I love this NALUG bridge. If immitation is the sincerest form
of flattery, consider that design in the queue to have its double deck
construction copied!

I'll let Laz know (I don't know if he reads Lugnet) - he'll be pleased.

Meanwhile, back to the "my dog's better than yours": Last time we stayed at
Hotel LEGOLAND, we would head down to the LEGO room each night when most guests
had gone to bed and build somethimg BIG. One item was, if I recall right, an 18
foot long flat deck bridge completely supported from below by two towers. Our
criteria for doing great was to make something so awesome that the hotel staff
would not take it apart during the daily cleanup. Of course, the first round of
little kinders in the morning that arrived without parents would have things in
megapieces in seconds.

All in one night? - that's a lot of putting together! I don't know how long
Laz took to do his bridge, but I imagine it was a lot more than one session.
There were 4 or 5 people that did pieces of the High Level bridge (last
year's show was a "bridge and island" layout, deliberately), and we spent
time over several weeks finishing it all off.

This year we are having a theme based on the province of Alberta's
centennial. The project John and I are doing was started a couple of
months ago, to be ready for September. Sometimes it seems like my dining
room (where I build) is never without piles of Lego!

-Chris Gray


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