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Aliens Style APC
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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 03:59:47 GMT
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Hello All!

Thank you for your many comments / ideas on my last moc (shag wagon). Much appreciated.

Some of you may have seen the “Aliens-Movie inspired Armored Personnel Carrier (APC)” for the rest of you, here it is!



I found it difficult to give the swooping feel to the cab-forward design of this apc without the boxy look. And a primary design consideration for my son was the ability to pull the roof off easily and store soldiers inside. And we wanted to create a sliding airlock door. And I quite desired to have both the front and back wheels steer (to mimic the functionality seen in the movies). Basically the model was to have playability...

So, it’s a bit boxy, but I think it captures the spirit ok ;-) Mike Yoder from the CSF suggested the rear cannons fold into the body for better clearance in tight quarters - so I’m thinking of modifying it to suit. Thoughts?

For the motherload score of pictures and animations, see the website...

Website Deeplink: http://www.qualzone.com/lego5/moc_apc/display_stuff.html

Cheers! ~ Paul.


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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lugnet.build.military
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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 06:36:44 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Paul Brassington wrote:
   Some of you may have seen the “Aliens-Movie inspired Armored Personnel Carrier (APC)” for the rest of you, here it is!

The APC is wonderfully constructed. Just sweet.

If I recall, I believe the movie version was wider (or at least seemed to be--more low slung, perhaps; I suspect that’s what you were commenting on in terms of the boxy-ness. Would widening the model by, say, two brick heights be out of the question? Just from a speculative standpoint--I think the APC is excellent as it is.

I also like the xenomorphs. Those marines are definitely on serious “bug hunt.” (Or, is it the other way? ;o)

-best,

Wolf


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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lugnet.build.military
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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:50:12 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Paul Brassington wrote:
   Hello All!

Thank you for your many comments / ideas on my last moc (shag wagon). Much appreciated.

Wow!!! Very nice! Really like the look and construction, good solution on the wheels. Just my initial reactions, now I have to look more and explore further details.. :)


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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lugnet.build.military
Date: 
Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:25:05 GMT
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In lugnet.announce.moc, Paul Brassington wrote:
   Hello All!

Thank you for your many comments / ideas on my last moc (shag wagon). Much appreciated.

Some of you may have seen the “Aliens-Movie inspired Armored Personnel Carrier (APC)” for the rest of you, here it is!



I found it difficult to give the swooping feel to the cab-forward design of this apc without the boxy look. And a primary design consideration for my son was the ability to pull the roof off easily and store soldiers inside. And we wanted to create a sliding airlock door. And I quite desired to have both the front and back wheels steer (to mimic the functionality seen in the movies). Basically the model was to have playability...

So, it’s a bit boxy, but I think it captures the spirit ok ;-) Mike Yoder from the CSF suggested the rear cannons fold into the body for better clearance in tight quarters - so I’m thinking of modifying it to suit. Thoughts?

For the motherload score of pictures and animations, see the website...

Website Deeplink: http://www.qualzone.com/lego5/moc_apc/display_stuff.html

Cheers! ~ Paul.

Hi Paul,

You keep sneaking these things past me by not cross-posting to a theme group. I really love this. I’m a real sucker for Alien and its sequels so anything from them arouses my interest and this is a most excellent build.

I find the front doesn’t quite match the prototype entirely but it’s quite forgivable given the lovely interior you’ve fit in. I agree with Mr Yoder. Gotta fold that guns back. I haven’t watched the film for a while but doesn’t it just rotate perpendiclar to the side wall and fold to the back? Probably not too hard to do and would add yet another cool feature.

And I’m curious how you do the wheels. They’re by far my favourite bit.

Tim


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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lugnet.build.military
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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 16:32:19 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Timothy Gould wrote:
   ...I haven’t watched the film for a while but doesn’t it just rotate perpendiclar to the side wall and fold to the back?

The movie showed the turret mounted an a pair of rails that curved over the back end of the vehicle. The guns pointed sideways and the whole turret then traveled backwards and then down the back until it was tucked in behind so they could smash through the wall unimpeded.

No, I haven’t watched it for a while but I watched it waaaaay too many times after it came out on video. Still my favorite of the whole series.


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 18:10:01 GMT
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Hello Paul,

this is a true spotlight! I just had to login and answer. I like the details
of the interior. And I love the playability. Great work.

I wonder how you did that sliding door. It looks fantastic in the animation.
And what about the wheels, are the back and front pairs connected with some
kind of gearing?

Keep that fantastic piece of work
Marco


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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lugnet.build.military
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Tue, 9 Jan 2007 19:00:51 GMT
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Paul,

Ah, I was admiring this the other day - very nice work! How many troops does it fit on the inside?

I know how hard it can be to balance functionality and scale, and I think you’ve done a great job.

I like the slightly sloped roof and you’ve added the number 5 very nicely too! just a detail, but it’s the details that count;)

thanks again for sharing

Magnus


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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lugnet.build.military
Date: 
Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:11:13 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Wolf Read wrote:
   In lugnet.announce.moc, Paul Brassington wrote:
   Some of you may have seen the “Aliens-Movie inspired Armored Personnel Carrier (APC)” for the rest of you, here it is!

The APC is wonderfully constructed. Just sweet.

If I recall, I believe the movie version was wider (or at least seemed to be--more low slung, perhaps; I suspect that’s what you were commenting on in terms of the boxy-ness. Would widening the model by, say, two brick heights be out of the question? Just from a speculative standpoint--I think the APC is excellent as it is.

I also like the xenomorphs. Those marines are definitely on serious “bug hunt.” (Or, is it the other way? ;o)

-best,

Wolf

Wolf,

Yes I toyed with the idea of making it a few studs wider originally, but the scale of the vehicle looked out of place with the wheel diameter... and those are the only wheels in my collection (from 1980’s technic set ;-) that would work.

Thanks for the comments.

Cheers! ~ Paul.


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:21:13 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Timothy Gould wrote:

   You keep sneaking these things past me by not cross-posting to a theme group. I really love this. I’m a real sucker for Alien and its sequels so anything from them arouses my interest and this is a most excellent build.

I find the front doesn’t quite match the prototype entirely but it’s quite forgivable given the lovely interior you’ve fit in. I agree with Mr Yoder. Gotta fold that guns back. I haven’t watched the film for a while but doesn’t it just rotate perpendiclar to the side wall and fold to the back? Probably not too hard to do and would add yet another cool feature.

And I’m curious how you do the wheels. They’re by far my favourite bit.

Tim

Tim,

I used the technic wheels from set 8842 from 1986. My dad bought me that set way back then and it was a favourite because it had steering that worked and a simplistic engine with moving piston when you pushed it along the floor. Memories... http://www.brickset.com/search.aspx?Set=8842-1

Stuck some technic pins in there, slapped in a 1x3 plate and then put some flat tiles on it. The dark grey 1x2’s just magically snapped into place on either side of the 1x3. Zingerlicious.

Thanks for your comments!

Cheers! ~ Paul.


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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lugnet.build.military
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Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:24:31 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Marco Tagliaferri wrote:
   Hello Paul,

this is a true spotlight! I just had to login and answer. I like the details
of the interior. And I love the playability. Great work.

I wonder how you did that sliding door. It looks fantastic in the animation.
And what about the wheels, are the back and front pairs connected with some
kind of gearing?

Keep that fantastic piece of work
Marco

Thanks Marco!

The steering front and back are not connected. Would be a great idea though and totally possible. There’s enough room under the vehicle with a slightly modified floor. And plus my son likes driving the vehicle sideways with both wheels turned in favor ;-)

The sliding door has 1 plate hieght top and bottom to keep it from sliding all the way into the interior... and then there’s a slide path backwards with a pin to stop it sliding too far. Playability was a key in the door design.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting!

Cheers! ~ Paul.


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:27:13 GMT
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In lugnet.build.military, Magnus Lauglo wrote:
   Paul,

Ah, I was admiring this the other day - very nice work! How many troops does it fit on the inside?

I know how hard it can be to balance functionality and scale, and I think you’ve done a great job.

I like the slightly sloped roof and you’ve added the number 5 very nicely too! just a detail, but it’s the details that count;)

thanks again for sharing

Magnus

Magnus,

Thanks for the comments.

You can squish 15 troops inside plus the driver and gunner in the seat shown. If you’re really into the harsh reality of militaristic economics, you can get about 22, maybe 23 tops in there ;-)

Cheers! ~ Paul.


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Re: Aliens Style APC
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Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:24:14 GMT
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Paul,

Steering like this is easy enough if you have space under the vehicle.

Check out the pix showing the underside of my Wild Boar APC, in this case I was even able to incorporate suspension, but this system wouldn’t work with just the four wheels on your APC.

cheers

Magnus

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=203197


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