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I'd like to remind everyone that uses the BrickShelf gallery that
*complete* instruction and catalog scans do not belong in gallery
folders. Uploading that material has always been a violation of the
TOS. I'd like to explain some reasons for this:
1. The legal terms you agree to by uploading to a gallery account are very
different to the terms for submission to the scan library. By uploading
to the gallery you are claiming that you either own copyright to the material
or you have the permission of the copyright holder. By submitting to the scan
library you agree that all copyrights are owned by TLC. You wouldn't want TLC
to claim ownership of your material and they probably don't want you claiming
ownership of theirs.
2. A vast collection of reference material like the scan library should be
rigorously organized and formatted with a central index and sensible navigation
scheme.
3. The purpose of the gallery is to showcase fan creations and other fan
created materials. A large number of instruction and catalog scans would
distract from the original content.
While I don't have the resources to discover and delete all uploads that
violate the TOS, I reserve the right to do so. Don't be surprised if I do.
That said, I strongly encourage the submission of instruction and catalog scans
to the scan library, by following the instructions here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/README
Once the gallery code has a few additional key features I will use another
instance of it for the scan library. This will allow for uploading submissions
the same way gallery content is uploaded. It will also allow for multiple
admins (possibly even TLC if they were interested in that) to
process uploads and move them online.
KL
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In lugnet.announce, Kevin Loch writes:
> I'd like to remind everyone that uses the BrickShelf gallery that
> *complete* instruction and catalog scans do not belong in gallery
> folders. Uploading that material has always been a violation of the
> TOS. I'd like to explain some reasons for this:
>
> 1. The legal terms you agree to by uploading to a gallery account are very
> different to the terms for submission to the scan library. By uploading
> to the gallery you are claiming that you either own copyright to the material
> or you have the permission of the copyright holder. By submitting to the scan
> library you agree that all copyrights are owned by TLC. You wouldn't want TLC
> to claim ownership of your material and they probably don't want you claiming
> ownership of theirs.
>
> 2. A vast collection of reference material like the scan library should be
> rigorously organized and formatted with a central index and sensible navigation
> scheme.
>
> 3. The purpose of the gallery is to showcase fan creations and other fan
> created materials. A large number of instruction and catalog scans would
> distract from the original content.
>
> While I don't have the resources to discover and delete all uploads that
> violate the TOS, I reserve the right to do so. Don't be surprised if I do.
>
> That said, I strongly encourage the submission of instruction and catalog scans
> to the scan library, by following the instructions here:
>
> http://www.brickshelf.com/scans/README
>
> Once the gallery code has a few additional key features I will use another
> instance of it for the scan library. This will allow for uploading submissions
> the same way gallery content is uploaded. It will also allow for multiple
> admins (possibly even TLC if they were interested in that) to
> process uploads and move them online.
>
> KL
What I would really like to know is this-does TLC have a hallway filled
with glass cabinets that are in turn filled with one of every Lego set
produced? Don't they have a company museum? If they do, they need to share
it with Brickshelf in order to get a more complete inventory of all sets
produced. I would be disappointed if Lego doesn't have one. And what about
the sets that didn't make it to store shelves...
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In lugnet.publish, Jonathan Mizner writes:
> What I would really like to know is this-does TLC have a hallway filled
> with glass cabinets that are in turn filled with one of every Lego set
> produced?
I'm almost positive that they don't. Chances are it'd be a huge waste of
space with little appreciation. If they DID have sets in glass cabinets,
etc, I'd imagine that they'd only pick very popular sets as examples of
'Lego throughout the years' or some such.
> Don't they have a company museum?
They might have some more extensive records in Legoland Billund, but I doubt
they've got what you're looking for.
> If they do, they need to share
> it with Brickshelf in order to get a more complete inventory of all sets
> produced. I would be disappointed if Lego doesn't have one. And what about
> the sets that didn't make it to store shelves...
As implied, I don't think they feel it's worth their time. After all, it
wouldn't really produce them enough money (I don't think) to justify the
upkeep of something that extensive. Nor would that many people really take
interest in ALL of it. Sure it's easy nowadays with computer DB's, etc, but
back in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and most of the 80's, it just wouldn't be
practical.
And granted that they're VERY secretive to the point of destroying certain
elements of their toy's creation (I don't know if I'm at liberty to go into
detail or not?), I highly doubt they've got extensive records, and even if
they did, that they'd be willing to share necessarily.
DaveE
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