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Re: Stop the 8 Wide Insanity!
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Date: 
Mon, 11 Dec 2000 20:19:27 GMT
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Larry Pieniazek wrote:

> In lugnet.trains, John Neal writes:
> > Okay, I am going to cease and desist on the topic of 8 wide, maybe
> > forever, if all you naysayers would just consider this:
> > 
> > -8 wide is no different in scale than 6 wide-- same minifig, same track.
> 
> Correction, 8 wide is the same gauge but either represents stock
> proportionally larger to the gauge or is a different "scale". However there
> is no "LEGO scale" so your assertion is technically of null semantic
> content.

I would argue that they are the same scale, based on the minifig.  It's just
that 6 wide is compressed widthwise, which is different than it being a
different scale.

> But, as this imprecision from you is normal (c.f. .debate) <grin>,
> we know what you MEANT even if you couldn't state it clearly.
> 
> > -8 wide is plain and simply 6 wide plus a row of 1xs on either side of
> > whatever you are building.  That's all.  No mystery.  No need to move
> > into a larger house.
> > 
> > -All 8 wide does is give you 2 more studs worth of interior design space
> > and provide a more prototypical look on the outside.  Does not induce
> > bankruptcy.
> 
> Except for the "does not induce bankrupcy" (which isn't true, even for 6
> wide trains, as we all know)

I stand corrected:-)

> none of these assertions are in dispute. What I
> dispute is whether lobbying for a change in Official TLG sets to 8 wide as
> the primary, or even *a* main focus of lobbying efforts is reasonable,
> prudent, and necessary.

I never said I was trying to lobby TLC-- maybe the troops of LTDs....

> It's not.  It's not reasonable, it's not prudent, and it's not necessary.
> 
> I can, at the same time, marvel at what people can create in 8 wide (and 6
> wide and 4 wide and 2 wide and 14 wide, etc.) and still think that there are
> much much much more important things to try to convince the Powers That Be
> at TLG of.
> 
> Things we've named off such as fixing the track geometry, getting DCC
> *right*, moving to run of the mill cars and accessories instead of just
> bizarre things like trainwash, getting a good line of powered accessories,
> etc, etc, etc...
> 
> And more generic things too, like improving the bulk offerings and pricing,
> implementing the "custom" set thingie (whatever it is) properly,
> discontinuing the practice of symmetric parts that lock you into a width,
> etc, etc, etc...
> 
> These are ALL more important than your pet hobby horse.

BION, 8 wide isn't my chief concern.  I have other issues which I care much
more deeply about.  As far as 8 wide goes, I just don't want TLC to design 6
wide specific parts which categorically limits builders to toywide.

> And the more you
> push that hobby horse the sillier it makes you look and the more credibility
> you lose with some. Including me.

Maybe I get a little passionate <shrug>

-J-2

> 
> 
> ++Lar



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(...) Correction, 8 wide is the same gauge but either represents stock proportionally larger to the gauge or is a different "scale". However there is no "LEGO scale" so your assertion is technically of null semantic content. But, as this imprecision (...) (26 years ago, 11-Dec-00, to lugnet.trains)

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