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    Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Jeff Stembel
   (...) is (...) Yet more proof: I had a friend match up the "digital points" to see if they where, in fact, mirrored. And guess what? They were! Feel free to try it yourself... Jeff (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
   
        Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Thomas Main
     Has anyone noticed the new link on the site? (URL) swear that wasn't there this morning :) -- Thomas Main main@appstate.edu (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —James J. Trobaugh
     Yeah and the counter isn't working any more! jt Thomas Main wrote in message <38E4E488.3482DB3D@a...te.edu>... (...) gtfthis (...) feel (...) they (...) it (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Christopher Tracey
   (...) Here's the mirror proof: I took the images of the points from the 'leaked' catalog and cut them out into separate files. I mirrored one of them. I then dropped the red and green components from one and the green and blue from the other. I then (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) ! 
   
        Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Dan Boger
     (...) Dan (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
    
         Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Christopher Tracey
     (...) standard image processing techique(sorta) for change detection. It's used a lot in ecological and archaeological studies with a time series of aerial photographs. You can tell what has changed from time point to time point just by looking at (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
   
        Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Stephen F. Roberts
     (...) ...lol... yea.. simple! :-) ...Chris, u have too much time on ur hands! :-) (...) ...you can go back to ignoring me now... wubwub stephen f roberts wamalug guy ((URL) #160 (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Christopher Tracey
     (...) maybe, i just tried the same analysis on the two 4 stud track pieces and i can't tell if they are the same segment copied twice or not. They are two small to get an accurate judgment. i'm a geek. -chris (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Frank Filz
      Christopher Tracey wrote in message <38E51BAD.B42D5DA9@w...ug.org>... (...) I just loaded this picture up into Paintshop Pro and zoomed in. I'm not sure what kind of effects JPG compression can actually have, but it is interesting to see that the (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Andreas Stabno
   There's something that has been bothering me with those pictures of automated points and I finally realized what it is. The power connectors to drive the switching motor are connected to both parts of the point. One is attached to the straight part (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
   
        Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Huw Millington
      Andreas Stabno <stabno@megsinet.net> wrote in message news:FsAv72.EDJ@lugnet.com... (...) automated (...) parts (...) the (...) from (...) connections? The outside rails are always live (while there's power being applied to the track) - the inner (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
    
         Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —James Powell
       (...) Yes, Huw, that is correct. However, why not have internal metal wires in the point? I would think it easier to make it so that the take off was from within the tie bar than to have the external connection. However, I would view it as entirely (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
     
          Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Mike Poindexter
       James Powell <wx732@freenet.victoria.bc.ca> wrote in message news:FsB2pJ.JJ9@lugnet.com... (...) clear. (...) No, it will NOT CLEAR. It is on the "other side" in regards to being before the switch, but it is on the curved side instead of the (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
      
           Re: 6 vs. 8 wide? —John Gerlach
       (...) But what a nice dilemma to have! (I'd vote for 8-wide trains...) John Neal is too busy building *14* wide "G" scale cars... ;-) JohnG, GMLTC (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: 6 vs. 8 wide? —Mike Poindexter
       I realize that, but what if the simple installation of an automatic point makes clearance of 8-wide trains impossible? Do we then not allow the remote points on 8 wide layouts? What about layouts that are 6 wide, but will connect to 8 wide train (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
     
          Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Larry Pieniazek
      (...) parts (...) within (...) Yes, or that they have solved how to retrofit this mechanism to existing points, or that they wanted to reuse the tooling for the current points ties and subplate. Or that it's a hoax. To people that think I am not (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.trains)  
     
          Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Mike Poindexter
      (...) distance (...) Lar and others: The 8 wides WILL hit that box going through points. My DD40 cannot spur off on a set of points unless the actual yellow point switch is removes, as it ovehangs on the inside of the curve by too much. The box is (...) (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.trains)  
     
          Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Larry Pieniazek
      In lugnet.trains, Mike Poindexter writes: Note, I will speak of a hypothetical remote control switch which just happens to resemble something posted which may or may not be a hoax and which may or may not be OK to talk about. (...) Sigh. Well one (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Jonathan Reynolds
     (...) Traditional model railways with DCC control have required the 'self-isolating' points to be hard-wired so that there is power to both rails on both tracks at all times. This is of course to allow not only movement of trains independant of the (...) (25 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)  
   
        Re: Proof of a Hoax? (was: New 9V Digital Trains for Germany this Autumn) —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) No. this is exactly where you would have to connect. The outer rails are unswitched (think about it, they have no points in them, they're unbroken. If this is a hoax, the hoaxer got this right. ++Lar (25 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.trains)  
 

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