 | | April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Pawel Nazarewicz
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| | | I'm with you on this ... did you notice the pirate torso on the woman at the station? If it's a fake then it's a well done fake ... Could it be April 1st already? -- pn (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | That would be the most amazing April fools day trick ever if it was. They would have had to actually make some fake pieces or some some really good image enhancements. Pawel Nazarewicz wrote in message ... (...) the (...) 1st (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Michael Edwards
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| | | | | Hi everybody, please read the message below I rarely watch this group But i am amazed by the pictures, but the following things puzzle me 1. Since when those DB stickers come back? I thought they belong to the 12V not to 9V 2. Look at 4450 Right at (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | (...) I'm going to hope that it is real... I'm thinking these aren't the final versions of the pictures, that this is being used to test layout, colors, whatever. Yes, the picture quality is lower than what we're used to, but I've seen prototype (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | | (...) Too many things point to it being a hoax, IMO. Also, While the quality is low, whoever made it, tried to make it as real as possible. The Train Logo is way too clear, while the Lego Logo is way too fuzzy... Jeff (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —James J. Trobaugh
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| | | | | | | | Maybe we're spending too much time on the quality of the graphics. Lets look at the sets themselves. Where would those wheels on the 4460 and the gray wheels on the 4432. And the doors and windows on the passenger cars on the 4450? Those are awesome (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | | (...) Image quality is a big part of determining if it is a fake. IMO, at least. For example, is it just a bad scan? What evidence is there for or against this? One piece of evidence is that many of the colors are too universal for it to be a scan. (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | (...) I was thinking this, too. Lego now uses the "<-o->" symbol. Not to mention that the stickers are poorly applied, and Lego doesn't even use stickers for the door symbols anymore (I think, they didn't with 4558). (...) Right, too much (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Thomas Main
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| | | | | | | | | These are compelling arguments... :( And here I was thinking of auctioning all my 12V track and trafos to be able to but this stuff in the fall... If they are fake...the person who did this deserves a nice round of applause....and we should all make (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | | | New Style DB logo (was Re: New Trains) —Simon Denscombe
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| | | | | | | | (...) It is not the same DB logo as the 12V ones - they changed it in the early 90's - the one on the scans is the newer version. It is shown more clearly bottom right of 1.jpg. Compare old logo: (URL) new logo: (URL) at the new train scans - the (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) THis is a needless comment. If your message is worthy of reading it will be read without the prefacatory fluff. (...) Stickers can be reprinted. (...) No idea what you're getting on about here. (...) Parts can be reprinted. Parts can be (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Michael Edwards
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| | | | | | | | | (...) was (...) hoax. (...) It's (...) 4460 (...) on (...) I would really like that train to come out, But we will have to wait for confirmation from Lego if it's true, if it's true were did Paul Rutenberg get the pictures from? -- Michael - - - (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | (...) It looks like 4450 and 4460 use the same motor to me. Looks like the new motor has two small wheels and 4 large spoked ones. I did a quick look through the train sets, and unless I missed something, I don't see a white/blue split color train (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) I'm thinking 4460 uses steel rimmed (powered) and 4450 uses plastic rimmed (unpowered) with the motor unit in the tender. That looks like a glint of steel on the tender wheels. That's good news because it means we get a new size wheel for (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) It _is_ a bit strange that the red 4460 has metal rims on all the wheels, though. Surely, only two pairs are powered. On the other hand, mixing metal and non-metal rims on one engine would probably look daft. Fredrik (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) ?? <set:4551> ++Lar (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | | (...) What is with the rude comments of late? Someone can't just throw in a little meaningless statement here and there? You do it often enough. I do it, too, and so do most people. (...) Yes, but isn't that a real train company? Wouldn't it have to (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Will Hess
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| | | | | | | | (...) 4460 (...) on (...) they (...) the (...) Naw. Those are black model team wheel hubs - recently available in Bi-Wing Baron (thanks LFB :-) and the Twisted Time Train - with chromed edges. Ben Fleskes has an engine using these wheels in grey and (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Jeff Stembel
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Nope, because those aren't spoked. However, the could be painte Maxifig wheels... (also found on the "pre-model team" classic cars, in the 390's) Jeff (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Frank Filz
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| | | | | | | | | (...) What I see are CLEARLY spoked wheels with a single stud hub. (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Will Hess
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| | | | | | | | | | You are both correct. Now, where's that shoehorn? I seem to have my foot stuck in my mouth :-) I still think his whole thing is a hoax. Will Lego Beach Department of Emergency Services www.crosswinds.net/~hokie (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | (...) Lighten that picture up in PSP, and you'll see that IF they are those rims, they were EXTENSIVELY modified. As in the flange on the smaller diameter was removed, most of the larger ends' flange was removed, black spokes were machine for the (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Fredrik Glöckner
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| | | | | | (...) Feel free to call me gullible, but I believe this is real. The layout of the ads are different than what we are used to, but I would attribute that to it being a Deutsche Bahn promotion catalogue, or something to that effect. At least the text (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains) !
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| | | | | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Michael Edwards
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| | | | | | After having another look, I am not too sure now, I am stuck in-between. You guys are going to have to connive me. If this is the True Lego picture It would be great, but why is there some mistakes in the picture. I now believe that this is a hoax (...) (24 years ago, 31-Mar-00, to lugnet.trains)
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| | | | | Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains) —Tobias Möller
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| | | | In lugnet.trains, Pawel Nazarewicz writes: I think it is obvious that the images are fakes. It's probably an April-fools joke, and very well done. Similar someone else's, of a fake set. That was really good, he made a fake box and even took a kid, (...) (24 years ago, 1-Apr-00, to lugnet.trains)
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