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Re: April 1st sometime in the world ... ? (Re: New Trains)
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In lugnet.trains, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.trains, Michael Edwards writes:
> > Hi everybody, please read the message below
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> THis is a needless comment. If your message is worthy of reading it will be
> read without the prefacatory fluff.
What is with the rude comments of late? Someone can't just throw in a little
meaningless statement here and there? You do it often enough. I do it, too,
and so do most people.
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> > I rarely watch this group
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> > But i am amazed by the pictures, but the following things puzzle me
> >
> > 1. Since when those DB stickers come back? I thought they belong to the 12V
> > not to 9V
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> Stickers can be reprinted.
Yes, but isn't that a real train company? Wouldn't it have to be liscensed?
Lego hasn't liscensed many realworld companies recently, at least not for
general release sets.
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> > 2. Look at 4450 Right at the top right corner appears to be a part of the
> > wall showning, and the pictures don't look like the way lego does theirs?
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> No idea what you're getting on about here.
There is a triangular section in the corner. Seems to be a different object
from the background. Also, notice the bending in this picture? That is from a
wide angle or panoramic lens, IMO.
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> > 3. Look at 4424, the Station map there, that came from the Police Van
> > released in 1986
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> Parts can be reprinted. Parts can be reused. Why design new parts if you can
> use old ones again?
Have you *completely* forgotten Lego's track record? Since when do they
re-issue 14 year old stickers?? That is a *sticker* and not a preprinted part
after all. Also, 4450 uses the train schedule from 7824, still on the white
bricks.
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> > 4. Look at 4468 Looks like at Old 9V Technic motor same for 4438 and 4439,
> > the old motor was discountued a few years ago.
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> It would be logical to use the tooling for the outside casing for the DCC
> controller instead of developing a new one, if the dimensions work. These are
> low volume, save tooling where you can. (the INSIDE of the casing might well
> be different but that's a different surface of the mold and could be new
> tooling.
Again, Lego likes to make new parts for new functions...
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> > 5. 4465 Looks Odd?, why do Lego want to start making little pieces of track?
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> Because people who build real layouts have been screaming for them for years,
> as you'd know if you read the group much.
I've never screamed for them, and I build "real" layouts. What is the
definition of a "real layout", anyway?
> GMLTC makes these with a hacksaw on a regular basis. This may be the most
> important new item of them all. Really.
'Tis more challenging to create within the bounds Lego sets for us... ;)
> Too bad they didn't redo the switches/points to fix the geometry problem.
The person who created this hoax probably didn't want to expend the effort,
otherwise I'm sure they would've been there. :)
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> > 6. 4479 There is too much shadow, it's not well done.
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> Lame critique.
Lame Response.
I read Michael's "critique" (more of an observation, really) as saying
something like, "There is too much shadow for this to be a real lego image; if
it is, it is not well done."
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> > THIS IS A HOAX
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> Maybe. But a very elaborate one. I'd reserve judgement. Wasn't that what was
> said about the star wars preproduction pics?
Just the first one, IIRC. And most of us had never seen a prepro image then,
so we didn't know what techniques and styles they used.
> Please name off a significant announcement that came with pictures that
> actually turned out to be a hoax.
There *is* a first time for everything, you know. Why exactly do you believe
it is real, other than wishful dreaming? :)
> Seems like every time TLC does something good everyone thinks it's a hoax.
No, just when things are so completely different from what they normally do.
These are not, IMO, of a style lego would build in. For example, the steam
engine in 4450 is way to big for an official Lego model, IMO. This is the kind
of thing I'd expect to come from someone like Eric Brok.
> If you think it's a hoax you have to explain where the metal wheels on 4460
> came from, those are going to be very hard to fake. And the large spokers on
> 4450 for that matter.
Since the quality isn't very good, it is impossible to say for sure what they
are made of. Maybe the hoaxer has access to metal or plastic molds (maybe the
sand kind, but not permanant ones).
Jeff
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