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BS
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My version of a Tatra T-3 tram from
Moscow. This one has gone through numerous iterations to finally get it to look
satisfactory. Apologies for the one blue window but I figured it was a
replacement after some vandals broke the original.
Tim
PS. Also featuring the tram tracks I mentioned yesterday.
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"Tim Gould" <tgould.lego(AT@)gmail(DOT.)com> wrote in message
news:JCFLK1.DD6@lugnet.com...
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=229584
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> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=229584 BS>
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> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/gambort/368933134/ Flickr>
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> My version of a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_T3 Tatra T-3> tram
> from
> Moscow. This one has gone through numerous iterations to finally get it to
> look
> satisfactory. Apologies for the one blue window but I figured it was a
> replacement after some vandals broke the original.
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> Tim
>
> PS. Also featuring the tram tracks I mentioned yesterday.
Mmmmmm, ornj. Looks great. Also reminds me of a VW bus though. :P crazy
man!
-Rob
www.brickmodder.net
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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BS
Flickr
My version of a Tatra T-3 tram from
Moscow. This one has gone through numerous iterations to finally get it to
look satisfactory. Apologies for the one blue window but I figured it was a
replacement after some vandals broke the original.
Tim
PS. Also featuring the tram tracks I mentioned yesterday.
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More real bricks!! :o)
I just love the front and rear end. You’ve really gotten the rounded look in
there quite nicely. Is there a reason for the compression in length? I am
wondering how it would look with the doorways in 4 wide rather than two wide.
Also, I was thinking this guy or maybe his 4 stud long sibling might be good for
the roof. http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?P=6091
The nose just kicks it, though. Really good.
Jonathan
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In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Lopes wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
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BS
Flickr
My version of a Tatra T-3 tram from
Moscow. This one has gone through numerous iterations to finally get it to
look satisfactory. Apologies for the one blue window but I figured it was a
replacement after some vandals broke the original.
Tim
PS. Also featuring the tram tracks I mentioned yesterday.
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More real bricks!! :o)
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I do own some of them. Of course it was designed in CAD first ;)
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I just love the front and rear end. You’ve really gotten the rounded look in
there quite nicely. Is there a reason for the compression in length? I am
wondering how it would look with the doorways in 4 wide rather than two wide.
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The compression is to stop it overhanging on curves too much but perhaps a
little overdone. It’s for a planned diorama so I might see how it all fits
together and adjust it then if neccessary.
I should note that the rear is actually wrong because I made it identical to the
front whereas it’s slightly shorter on the real thing. I tried a more accurate
version and it looked worse.
I think they’d be too tall unfortunately. The grey is fairly flush.
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The nose just kicks it, though. Really good.
Jonathan
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Thanks.
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Jonathan Lopes wrote:
Somebody go over to Tim’s house and check his basement for pods.
JOHN
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
Hey Tim - nice tram (as usual and real bricks no less!) but I was wondering
about the spaces in between some of the parts...was that due to the fit not
being right becuase of design limitations or that you just aren’t used to having
to press down hard on actual real life bricks? ;-)
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In lugnet.trains, Bob Parker wrote:
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I was wondering
about the spaces in between some of the parts...was that due to the fit not
being right becuase of design limitations or that you just aren’t used to
having to press down hard on actual real life bricks? ;-)
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lol. I noticed the spaces as well but couldn’t think of anything clever to say
about them.
Jonathan
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In lugnet.trains, Bob Parker wrote:
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
Hey Tim - nice tram (as usual and real bricks no less!) but I was wondering
about the spaces in between some of the parts...was that due to the fit not
being right becuase of design limitations or that you just aren’t used to
having to press down hard on actual real life bricks? ;-)
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Don’t get me started on those stupid bricks. They should fit. There is
absolutely no reason for them not to but they don’t fit quite right. A
combination of the curves oversensitivity and the slight curve in the window
parts. It took me ages just to get it to that level of pressed.
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=229584
> <http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/timgould/Trains/MoscowT3Tram/00.jpg>>
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> <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=229584 BS>
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> <http://www.flickr.com/photos/gambort/368933134/ Flickr>
>
> My version of a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_T3 Tatra T-3> tram from
> Moscow. This one has gone through numerous iterations to finally get it to
> look satisfactory. Apologies for the one blue window but I figured it was a
> replacement after some vandals broke the original.
>
> Tim
>
> PS. Also featuring the tram tracks I mentioned yesterday.
Hi Tim, really a nice work (this is said from a tramways expert!). I like the
front side that is typical of the eastern Europe old tramways. I would like to
see a Praha (Prague) version, red and white, maybe with the trailer car. Think
about it!
I love to see new tram types into Brickshelf (and not just Bionicle or poor
mocs!).
Bye,
Luca
PS: my trams, 8-wide, are here:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=189494
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=63616
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=153675
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In lugnet.trains, Luca Giannitti wrote:
> In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=229584
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/timgould/Trains/MoscowT3Tram/00.jpg>>
> >
> > <http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=229584 BS>
> >
> > <http://www.flickr.com/photos/gambort/368933134/ Flickr>
> >
> > My version of a <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatra_T3 Tatra T-3> tram from
> > Moscow. This one has gone through numerous iterations to finally get it to
> > look satisfactory. Apologies for the one blue window but I figured it was a
> > replacement after some vandals broke the original.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > PS. Also featuring the tram tracks I mentioned yesterday.
>
> Hi Tim, really a nice work (this is said from a tramways expert!). I like the
> front side that is typical of the eastern Europe old tramways. I would like to
> see a Praha (Prague) version, red and white, maybe with the trailer car. Think
> about it!
>
> I love to see new tram types into Brickshelf (and not just Bionicle or poor
> mocs!).
>
> Bye,
> Luca
>
> PS: my trams, 8-wide, are here:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=189494
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=63616
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=153675
Hi Luca,
Thanks very much for the compliments. I also have a CAD version so I may be able
to render a Prague version. I'll certainly think about it for when I have some
spare time.
Your Turin TPR-500 is probably my favourite tram made. You captured the all
important nose design so accurately. We have the same model here in Manchester
but a higher version (needs raised stations) and it was the first tram I made
and I copied a lot of ideas from you (but for six-wide).
One thing that is a litle sad is that a lot of modern trams are now just a few
models. Less variety to build :(
Tim
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In lugnet.trains, Timothy Gould wrote:
> One thing that is a litle sad is that a lot of modern trams are now just a few
> models. Less variety to build :(
Thanks for the compliments too :-)
I know the Manchester tram. It is a different version of Turin ML 7000. The TPR
5000 has a very close design with the difference that it is partial low flor.
The modern trams are most similar each others, but I like some of them, for
istance the ULF from Vienna or the GT6N from Munich, Berlin (and many other
towns in Germany).
About the GT6N, I've seen you made a good model but the nose can be better done:
it is too much flat because the real tram is more curved.
The perfect way to do it is to take inspiration from that picture:
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=158568
Those curved 2x2 slopes are ideal in order to make the nose lower part of the
GT6N. I would like to make a my own model of the GT6N, with the Munich MVG
livery, but 8-wide.
About other trams found into Brickshelf. The Combino from MALUG
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=202031 is a good model but I
don't like the dark gray bricks insead the windows (a good effect, but I don't
love it very much) and the fact that it can run only on straight rails.
Patrik Bosman's Amsterdam 3-axles-tram is very fine too.
http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2162356
I like the way he reproduced the little windows on the doors.
Bye!
Luca
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Hi Luca,
> About the GT6N, I've seen you made a good model but the nose can be better done:
> it is too much flat because the real tram is more curved.
> The perfect way to do it is to take inspiration from that picture:
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=158568
>
> Those curved 2x2 slopes are ideal in order to make the nose lower part of the
> GT6N.
Yes I completely agree.
> About other trams found into Brickshelf. The Combino from MALUG
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=202031 is a good model but I
> don't like the dark gray bricks insead the windows (a good effect, but I don't
> love it very much) and the fact that it can run only on straight rails.
I agree about the grey windows. Maybe black would work better for a
non-transparent colour but dark grey looks too coloured to me for a window.
> Patrik Bosman's Amsterdam 3-axles-tram is very fine too.
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=2162356
> I like the way he reproduced the little windows on the doors.
> Bye!
> Luca
I love these ones. I stole the window idea for the lower half of the middle door
in the T-3. It also inspired my Warsaw Tram. It is really not similar at all but
seeing how well he had got the angles inspired me to try for it.
Tim
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> About other trams found into Brickshelf. The Combino from MALUG
> http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=202031 is a good model but I
> don't like the dark gray bricks insead the windows (a good effect, but I don't
> love it very much) and the fact that it can run only on straight rails.
>
> Bye!
> Luca
When I designed this tram, I had to make a decision: should I model the window
frames or should I use standard windows? Since official LEGO models sometimes
use non-transparent bricks as "windows", I thought I could do it as well. (Tiny
Turbo sets, for example) I used dark gray for the tinted glass because the
window-frames are black.
As for the runs-only-on-straight-rails assumption: this is not quite the case.
Currently it does not run on any kind of rails at all. :-) The cars are still
not coupled together. Actually, if I set up the tram to have a motorcar at the
end it can push the train through curves and switches as well. I want to add a
coupling solution based on what can be found here:
http://news.lugnet.com/trains/?n=28890.
Regards,
Akos
Leg Godt
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Luca Giannitti wrote:
> Hi Tim, really a nice work (this is said from a tramways expert!). I like the
> front side that is typical of the eastern Europe old tramways. I would like to
> see a Praha (Prague) version, red and white, maybe with the trailer car. Think
> about it!
Hi Luca,
I think that Prague trams are not exactly white.
See this photo
http://www.einbahn.org/Trams/czech/6886-praha-mt.jpg
I don't like trams so even though I lived in Prague for almost 10 years,
I can count on my fingers how many times I used this loud beast :o)
OTOH I know that getting train windows in tan is not a easy task :o)
--
Jindroush
http://www.kostky.org - For Czech LEGO Fans.
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In lugnet.trains, Jindrich Kubec wrote:
> Luca Giannitti wrote:
> > Hi Tim, really a nice work (this is said from a tramways expert!). I like the
> > front side that is typical of the eastern Europe old tramways. I would like to
> > see a Praha (Prague) version, red and white, maybe with the trailer car. Think
> > about it!
>
> Hi Luca,
> I think that Prague trams are not exactly white.
> See this photo
> http://www.einbahn.org/Trams/czech/6886-praha-mt.jpg
I know, but white is the closest color.
Look at that picture of one historic tram in Turin:
http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=78183
The above color is a particular green (a light "Veronese" green), but what LEGO
color should I use? Not tan, because it is too much "yellowish". White? Too much
bright... the perfect color would be "light lime" (it exist, but just useless
parts!).
If I would use white, would I make a great mistake? What color would you use?
Luca
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Luca Giannitti wrote:
> Look at that picture of one historic tram in Turin:
> http://www.maj.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=78183
>
> The above color is a particular green (a light "Veronese" green), but what LEGO
> color should I use? Not tan, because it is too much "yellowish". White? Too much
> bright... the perfect color would be "light lime" (it exist, but just useless
> parts!).
> If I would use white, would I make a great mistake? What color would you use?
I'd like to use tan (because it's not as bright as white), but since the
windows are hard to get by, I'd also use white. Bummer.
Jindroush
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