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(...) Forgive me if it has been covered before, but the primary question I'd like to ask is whether TLC will continue to produce the old 9v track and 9v motors - and then, if so, will new sets be released based on those old units? Thanks, Derek (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I feel compelled to ask; do you really mean "sets" or do you mean supplies of track, switches, 9v train motors, wheel sets and buffer beams, and perhaps track connecting wires and controllers? JB (19 years ago, 9-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Both. I guess what I'm asking is whether the entire, current 9v train line will be continued; produced alongside the new line of trains. (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) There's still no definite answer. LEGO might not be willing to commit themselves. Think about it - if they said they'll supply 9V track forever, they can't keep that promise. If they say they'll make it for 2 more years, there'll be uproar (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I suppose (and it would have made more sense to check your reply before adding my other one - I'm splitting my own train of thought here) that the new IR base length makes it harder for LEGO to produce a new engine that can sell on its own (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I think there is a difference between TLG carrying on making and supplying parts for 9v trains and going to the trouble to design and release sets. From my own perspective, keeping me supplied with 9v train parts is 1000 times more important (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Agreed! I posted earlier that this 30 stud base totally wipes out all those cool Thomas and little trolley models. (Which, incidently, are amongst the most popular items we (LUCNY) run around the tracks at shows per visitor requests.) Even the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I'm no expert on the manufacturing process but I'd like to know if they have altered all the moulds for the track pieces and the clip-on motor frames. If these are completely new moulds then it shows there is a future supply potential for the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Surely for a Thomas train, if you make the bogie versions, Annie or Clarabel could use the IR unit baseplate? (URL) Then Thomas could be made using BBB wheels and he could have working rods too. I think it will be possible to bury the new IR (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) To play devil's advocate for a moment - how is the situation different from the conversion from 4.5V to 12V? That needed conductor rails, points, crossing, motor and transformer. In cost terms, including average inflation of 3% for 16 years (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) I did, I started out with 4.5v, and moved to 9v when it came out. What I don't understand is the decision to produce a $100+ set whith this new technology, as a first kit. I thought the whole point was to produce a $50 set to get into the (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) But moving to 9v from 4.5v gave you significant advantages and was an upgrade which added value. The new trains are already good - remote control, sound, cheap track, reverse loop capabilities, cab control etc. so the change to 9v rail powered (...) (19 years ago, 10-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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"Mathew Clayson" <mathew_impact1@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:Isw0Dr.1qw0@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) I agree completely. LEGO could (should?) take a lesson from the Brio/Thomas market. The reason it is successful is because (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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Mike Walsh posted a link on the ILTCO list which has a much cleaner image. (URL) It appears that the dummy engine on the ICE train is 6 studs shorter then the working engine. They used a lt grey curved slope to fill in a gap. A small detail I hadn't (...) (19 years ago, 11-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Hear, hear, those four wheeled Annie and Clarabels are a travesty created by the TV series ;-) (...) <SNIP> There (...) I think the 'with holes' one, Its backward compatible even if it doesn't look as good. Tim (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) In the past 4.5V trains could have short baseplates with a 4 or 6 wheeled motor only. The now IR trains can only have 8 wheels and only a 30 stud long baseplate. In the past even 12V trains could be converted to 4.5V. Now not all 9V trains can (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Moving from 4.5v to 12v had 'added value' in providing better control, many new features such as electric points, crossings etc. but more than anything else, it was the new expanding range which provided the most promise. If there is no 'new (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) 30 studs would be very long for Annie and Clarabel - I was thinking of trying an MOT 24-stud baseplate. After all, they must have some use (other than a Palethorpe's Pork Sausage three-axle van of course). Maybe you could get away with BBB (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) When I was at Legoworld, I soon learned that if I wanted the kids to crowd around I only had to run my green and red Percy with a small matching orange wagon: (2 URLs) Salt Wagon>> Chasing the Rocket and/or Penydarren around the same track: (2 (...) (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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(...) Ok, I'm a bit confused. Annie and Clarabel are SUPPOSED to be longer, 4-axle cars? Russell BayLTC (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) LOL That's hilarious, but so true! Our Thomas at shows is a veritable kid-magnet and the reason why we devote a special section of our layout to the TtTE characters. BTW, your proto MOCs are definitely awesome! JOHN (19 years ago, 12-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains, FTX)
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Hello (...) Jan Beyer said at the 1000steine-event, that they had to use new moulds for every type of rails, for they want that the new and old ones to fit together. They had to make the new ones a little bit higher, so there is no difference in (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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(...) Yeah, in the original books by the Rev. W Audrey they pretty were much as in the top picture in the link Mark included, with a composite (1st and 3rd class) and a brake coach (for the Guard (Conducter in US speak)and luggage). When the first (...) (19 years ago, 13-Jan-06, to lugnet.trains)
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