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Re: Great town buildings available as part of Shell Promo sets
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lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.town, lugnet.promo
Date: 
Sun, 3 Dec 2000 20:31:34 GMT
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I want to apologize to Matt Chiles if he is anyway offended by my comment.
I admit that my comments may be harsh for some.  I am sorry.  I did not take
into account the various factors and risks Matt takes, but thanks to Mike
Walsh and Rose Regner, I am able to see another perspective of the
situation.  I felt that Matt was like some of the people I see on Ebay,
buying a set for cheap, and then selling the sets at an unbelievable price
to collectors who may not know of such sources as Lugnet.  In response to
Larry Pieniazek's comments, I do not expect everything done on a favor basis.
     A few points I would like to make:
       First, while my email address is a Deloitte & Touche address, my
opinions are not related to my employer, and no one should feel that
Deloitte & Touche supports my beliefs.  So please, do not bring my employer
into the conversation.
       Second, I offered the favor and asked for the same because collecting
and talking about Legos is a hobby, for myself at least.  Therefore, I was
willing to do a favor, based on the Golden Rule concept.  While I was
looking for the sets, why not kill a few birds with one stone.  What I
offered is different from the sarcastic comment that Larry made.  Larry,
consulting is business, not a hobby.  Also, my expenses are so high, it
would be cheaper to be charged D&T rates.  :)
        Finally, I want to try to start anew with everyone.  While I have
not been active in conversations in the Lugnet community, I have been
reading the posts from the beginning.  Unfortunately, I picked the wrong
mood and post for my introductory post.  I am not a crass, naive individual
as some people seem to believe from their posts.  I wish to continue
conversations with the polite, intellectual individuals who make up the
Lugnet community.
     I understand posting this message to lugnet.town and lugnet.promo
qualifies as off the topic, but I felt it was important to apologize to
everyone, especially Matt Chiles, for my actions.  If anyone would like to
discuss my post any further, please email me directly, so that we do not
anger others who find my post a waste of time.  Matt, if you read this, I
would like to talk to you via email to say I am sorry for my comments.  I
did not mean to disrespect you in anyway.  I jumped to conclusions too soon.
I retract the off comment I made.
     Once again, I am sorry, and I ask everyone to please give me another
chance.

                                                   Christopher J. Dean

In lugnet.town, Larry Pieniazek writes:
In lugnet.town, Mike Walsh writes:

"Christopher J. Dean" <chdean@deloitte.com> wrote in message

This site is great if you like being ripped off.  Here is a little price
comparison I did:

Set       Shell     Vault     Mark-up
#1254     11.99     45.00     275%
#1255     11.95     45.00     277%
#1256     19.95     55.00     176%

It's also great if you want stuff, still MIB, that you're never going to
find anywhere else. And he has a LOT of that kind of stuff, and has for
years. Matt hasn't repriced these items to match current availability.

OK, but is that bad? Maybe 5 years from now when everyone else has parted
all theirs out because they were so widely available, some newbie promo
completist is going to be awfully happy Matt didn't dump these at a loss today.

I think this is a bit harsh.  Matt Chiles has been offering difficult to
find sets via The Vault for a long time (longer than I have been around).
Most likely Matt obtained those sets from European sources last year when
they were not available in the US.  At this point, those sets are only
available in Southern California, I doubt if you will find them in NYC or NJ
(you will find the other Shell sets as I found 2535-2544 at a Shell Station
not too far from Newark Airport).

It does cost money and time to track stuff down, get it back to the US AND
also take the risk that no one will buy it or worse, a cheaper source will
be found.  In this case it looks like Matt's sets are not priced
competitively.  If you don't like his prices, don't buy his stuff.  Labeling
his site a "rip-off" is a bit much (IMHO).

Well said, Mike.

Or did you, Chris, expect everyone to always do everything on a favor basis?
In that case, can you do me a favor, I have some consulting work I need
done, can you come by and do it for me at say, 8 an hour, instead of normal
Deloitte and Touche rates? I'll cover your expenses.

The workman is worthy of his wages. Or something like that. It says that in
some book I read the other day. :-)

FUT market.theory

++Lar



Message has 3 Replies:
  Re: Great town buildings available as part of Shell Promo sets
 
I know you asked for email, and I've trimmed the followups back to just .theory, but I wanted to publicly acknowledge your statements, especially your apology to Matt. I'm sorry for dragging your employer in where not appropriate, then laying the (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.town, lugnet.promo)
  Re: Great town buildings available as part of Shell Promo sets
 
Christopher J. Dean wrote in message ... (...) I agree!! (...) collecting (...) I do this a lot. I'd be happy to trade favors with you sometime. Finally, I want to try to start anew with everyone. While I have (...) I look forward to seeing more (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.town, lugnet.promo)
  Re: Great town buildings available as part of Shell Promo sets
 
Hi All- Christopher was kind enough to bring this thread to my attention or I would have missed it completely, not being a frequent scanner of Lugnet. Christopher, your apology is of course fully accepted. :) Yes, it is true that the particular sets (...) (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.market.theory, lugnet.town, lugnet.promo)

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