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Re: TECHNIC IS NOT DEAD!!!
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Date: 
Sun, 5 Jan 2003 01:45:23 GMT
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Before reading any more of my reply, remember, I **agree** with you, I'm not
very keen on the model either.

Although... Nik likes it better than the backhoe. But then, he's 10.

In lugnet.general, Allan Bedford writes:

But notice the FLAT panels and solid looking design of that truck?  Not
really represented in any way by the LEGO model.  Sorry.

http://www.oshkoshtruck.com/htm/air-muni/striker45001.cfm (this could be our
model... 8 wheels, stylised shape, dark blue transparent color windscreen, etc)

Quite possibly.  It has the same cab design.  But again, what's with the
Super Car chassis parts on the LEGO version?

The real ones are almost
painfully flat on their sides.

How about this prototype?

http://thunder.prohosting.com/~arff-2/arff/oshkosh/02.jpg (from the site you
referenced.... good resource... thanks!)

maybe they were going for the water tank look? No other explanation for the
use of those incredibly duff panels I can fathom(1). But if they wanted
water tanks what would be wrong with using the 1/2 round cylinder (ala
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8250 in yellow) or the 1/4 round cylinder ala
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/10016 ) instead?

Am I just being too picky?  But before you
answer... look at the backhoe again.  *Somebody* at LEGO can design
authentic looking models.  Why didn't that person or persons work on the
fire truck.  Sorry to sound so bitter, but I've been hoping for a large
scale LEGO fire truck for a while now.  This just doesn't cut it in my opinion.

I must admit I saw an ambulance (real one) in this lime color of green
today.  I have never seen one before... and hope never to again.  If this is
a fad, let it pass quickly.  The lime green color does not stand out against
other traffic nearly as well as fire engine red, yellow or ambulance white.

That's a perennial topic, so I hear, in the fire fighting fraternity. (I'm
not a firehead like some so it's just what I remember) This layman agrees
with you, red or yellow or white stand out better than lime green, at least
they do to me. But supposedly studies indicate lime green is a good color.
Beats me why. I just don't see it that way. And it sure is horrid!

I think LEGO should have stuck with at least a traditional color when trying
out a new design like this.

I agree. Like this design: http://guide.lugnet.com/set/8280 ... an oldie but
a goodie. (and one I just happen to still have good stocks of in my store)

But as a model, this crash truck... it's nowhere near as good a model as the
backhoe, I'd opine. That one's magnificent. So ya, I agree.

It's hardly in the same league.  That was why I wondered how it came to be
released at the same time as the backhoe.  Surely this didn't come from the
same design department.

Well, maybe, maybe not. Maybe that design's been in the can for a while and
just got approved. Maybe their marketeers think the two models (backhoe and
crash truck) are targeted at different segments and should be at different
realism levels? Who knows.

While we're ripping on designs, let's not leave that ore truck out either,
OK? I'm glad they did an ore truck, mind you, but it's not up to the backhoe
levels by any means. Sort of reminded me of Znap, actually, when I first saw
it...

1 - except for the "you are going to use some of these parts so we can
recoup tooling costs for them whether you want to or not" explanation, of course



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(...) Of course you do... why wouldn't you? ;) Don't worry Larry, I'm not interested in making this into a federal case. You make good points and I am not going to just pretend that my opinion is the only one. I certainly don't want to offend anyone (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.technic)

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(...) Yes, or ARFF's as they are affectionately known. But I should have qualified my proposal by saying, "if you asked the general public." Larry, you are far too knowledgeable when it comes to transportation, vehicles etc. to not see the vague (...) (22 years ago, 5-Jan-03, to lugnet.general, lugnet.technic)

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