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Re: Silver Champion
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Sat, 14 Apr 2001 02:44:10 GMT
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In lugnet.technic, David Arnon writes:
> I just finished building my Silver Champion and I have a few
> impressions.
> First of all, while it is very low on functions (for it size) I'm still happy
> with it.
> I enjoyed the building of the chassis and the suspension system very much. The
> bracing and double bracing is masterfully done and I think (hope) I learnt a
> lot from it.
> I wish I could build so skillfully when it comes to actual construction (and
> not mechanical functions).
> I seem to remember people complaining about the 'flimsiness' of the car. I
> didn't get that impression at all. The chassis turned out _very_ strong and I
> was very happy with the way it was built and braced.
> There was even a point in the front suspension assembly were you insert a #2
> axle in such a way that I'm not sure could be taken out at all without
> starting to flex other LEGO elements in order to free them in non-LEGO ways
> (like the recent permanent cube someone posted about).
I thought it wasn't too bad a set but was way overpriced; I bought it for
the original $170 price and was far less than satisfied. Although you're
right, the basic construction is very impressive. They actually don't use
too many traditional studs but instead rely on the various axle connectors
and joints, as most of the models after 1998 did. Aside from a few of the
decorative corrugated tubing pieces on the sides which fell off easily, I
also thought that this was an extremely strong model. (second only to the
8462 model IMHO) I've heard that Walmart.com was selling it for a while for
$85 and then once even for $28...probably should have waited till then...
I'll be putting up a website with lengthy reviews of some sets (the ones I
have) in a while...I guess I'll give a bit more information there...
> The good feeling faded a bit by the time I finished it because at the latter
> stages you deal mainly with decoration elements that are flimsy by nature
> (like <part:32189> or <part:78>) and were the assembly is much more simple and
> straight forward. They do their job though, as the final result is still
> beautiful.
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> On the cons side, it is certainly more a mix of Model Team & Technic than a
> pure Technic set, it has very few functions (more or less like <set:8428> or
> <set:8445> with 3 times less parts) and even the suspension which is the
> hardest bit is done using special elements that make the building somewhat
> easier.
Yeah I noticed that too...they might have been able to achive the same
effect with covered flex cables for the suspension system, although it would
probably be a bit less effective...
> A few question though:
> I had some trouble inserting the engine block into it's place behind the seat
> assembly. After some tinkering, checking & rechecking of the instructions I
> concluded that the entire seat assembly should have been placed a stud closer
> to the car's front (it also improves other aspects of the car's assembly and
> looks).
> Did anybody else reach that conclusion? Did anybody encounter any trouble with
> the placement of the engine block (or is it just an error on my side)?
That's interesting...I also did think that the seat was a bit too close to
the engine. It would probably look a bit better if the engine was placed
slightly further back, or the seat forward...
I really only had trouble getting the engine to stay in place after it was
put into the correct position, since its only held to the main chassis by a
few stud attachments. Kinda strange considering that the rest of the model
is built so well...
> Also, the entire roof of the car that is loaded on the pneumatic springs seems
> to be blocked from descending to it's final position. It seems to rest about
> 1cm above the place it should rest at. Again, did anyone have the same problem
> or is it just me?
I was also having trouble with getting the "trunk" to go completely down...I
think the problem lies in the fact that when the pneumatic shock absorbers
are fully retracted; they actually stick out slightly below the car, so my
guess is that they hit the floor before the thing closes completely. This
actually gets a bit annoying, since I've had the lid suddenly open up when
the car is pushed down slightly (to test the suspension)...
Overall not a bad set, but I think for the high price it leaves much to be
desired...
-Gaurav Thakur, raving madman
Can be reached at cp5670@supermail.com
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| I just finished building my <set:8458 Silver Champion> and I have a few impressions. First of all, while it is very low on functions (for it size) I'm still happy with it. I enjoyed the building of the chassis and the suspension system very much. (...) (23 years ago, 14-Apr-01, to lugnet.technic)
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