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I feel compelled to add; When I was a Meccanno fan, some years ago now, and the proud owner of a Set 10, complete with drawer cabinet, Lego hadn't invented gear wheels yet. Because we had Lego too, and it was the construction toy of choice for (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Yes, very much so! I think it would be a great idea to do so! What I am trying to say is that if you understand why the writer has the perception he does, and counteract it, I think your letter will be much more powerful. I think I see why he (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Well, I had both Meccano and Lego as a kid, and I can tell you that the Meccano didn't get a look in, past building a few things from the instructions. I really tried, but Meccano was just so slow to construct anything, and you couldn't really (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I think this is it: ftp://cherupakha.med...oflego.pdf Jennifer (URL) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.loc.uk)
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(...) Hi Larry. Correct me if I misunderstand but you appear to be saying that the Lego idioms are quicker to learn than for the other construction toys. We also appear to agree that the writers perception is wrong. Do you support me attempting to (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I think that would be great!!! Like I said, if you can dig out that reference to the fellow from MIT (I think his first name is Fred) and his work on idioms, that would make it even better... I am so bumming that I can't find it. It's not on (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.loc.uk)
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(...) Yup, that certainly is a large part of it, and I don't think there is any point in my life where my skill (or lack thereof) at the two systems was equal therefore allowing a valid comparison. I think there is something else though, a mindset, (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Nicole, my sincere condolences to you and to all of Ken's family and friends. Ken was a character, and part of the spirit of LUGNET. I also want to say thank you for keeping us informed of what was happening, and letting us know the outcome (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ny.bin, lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.technic.slizer)
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(...) I sit firmly in the 'sort of don't' camp. I'm going to do a little more work on this tonight, particularly in terms of the ways in which Meccano models civils better than Lego (in my opinion none). (...) One of the reasons why I never liked (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic, lugnet.loc.uk)
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(...) Because you know all the idioms. To draw an analogy, I can code in C++ or Java a lot faster than I can in Lisp, because I know more idioms and patterns. That doesn't (in and of itself) make C++ *better* than Lisp, just different. You need a (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) I sortof see this and sortof don't. If they are talking specifically about civil engineering then fair enough, and I suppose the fact that you can "legally" bend meccano parts in ways not really possible with Lego could be relevant, but one of (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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(...) Yes, but...Lego is easier to work with to provide the physical reality of the design. Take a wall, make it of 2x bricks non interlaced...and push a ball at it from a height. See how the ball goes right through the wall...now interlace the (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic)
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My heartfelt condolences and sympathy to all of you. Steve (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ny.bin, lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.technic.slizer)
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(...) The man has a point. The typical construction of an inexperienced student isn't likely to hang together very well, especially if it's built using tall columns of basic bricks, etc. And things that don't hang together don't demonstrate (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.loc.uk, lugnet.mediawatch, lugnet.technic)
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:( I don't know what to say... *gasp* it's always a shock when something like this happens... I am so sorry that this ended this way :( As I have said before... never knew him, but still I have a family myself and don't even want to imagine the pain (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ny.bin, lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.technic.slizer)
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(...) I wish to say that I am truly happy to have been touched by his spirit here. He will be missed. My thoughts go out to you all. -Aaron- (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ny.bin, lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.technic.slizer)
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Hello Nicole, Our thoughts and prayers are with you and Ken. I know there is nothing I can say to really make a difference, but - be strong and take care. With love, -Shiri (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ny.bin, lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.technic.slizer)
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Nicole, As many others, I didn't have a chance to ever know your husband - but on behalf of myself and my family, our condolences at this difficult time. Tim Saupé (25 years ago, 2-Jul-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ny.bin, lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.technic.slizer)
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We have the stone, but we are stuck. Does anyone have a walk through? How much of the game is open? Rose (25 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.technic.bionicle)
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To the Drumm family: I did not know Ken, but I have heard he was a great person. I am sorry about his death, and I hope everyone in your family will be alright from the shock of his death. My best regards to you. Robbie Anderson (25 years ago, 1-Jul-01, to lugnet.general, lugnet.loc.us.ny.bin, lugnet.technic, lugnet.technic.bionicle, lugnet.technic.slizer)
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