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Re: the evolution of lego sorting
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Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:07:26 GMT
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On Sun, 7 Jan 2001 04:41:39 GMT, Frank Filz <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote:
Remy Evard wrote:

[Lots of snipping.  Frank and I generated some serious text in here.]

Thanks for the detailed response Frank... it was very insightful for
me to read it from your perspective.

(Then, over time, you get another set, then another, then another.
And your pile of bricks grows.  How do you cope?)

This really didn't happen for me. I started sorting almost immediately.

To be completely honest, I don't remember quite what happened for me
in the beginning either.  By the time I was 10 or so (20+ years ago),
I was sorting by part, if I sorted at all.  But I do remember sorting
by color for about a day or two and realizing it just wouldn't work for
me.  So the early bits in this evolution were written more based on
what I've seen people say they were doing here and a faint recollection
of my really early Lego days.

9. Sorting becomes difficult enough that you decide, in some cases, not to
break some sets down and put them in your main pile of lego... instead, you
store them as a set, because that set is so cool just the way it is.  (Ok,
so this set is from the 80s...) The pieces for that set are either in their
box, or in a ziplock or something.  Congratulations, you've just invented
Set Archiving, and now you have two ways you store your Lego: broken down
by parts, and archived by set.

I have almost no sets archived in this way (though I have an overflow of
builtup sets on shelves, tables, or any other semi-flat surface).

I've got quite a few, in part because those particular pieces are
special.  For example, my yellow castle is either displayed or archived..
those pieces are never mixed in with the large pile.  Same with some of
my really really old sets, from the early 60s.  Those pieces are too
different from the rest to really mix in.o

The other reason I archive by set is that I just plain enjoy building
some of the sets as their own set.  For example, the Guarded Inn is this
way.  I build it, set it up, then eventually need the shelf space, but
can't bear to mix it in to the large pile because finding all the pieces
is such a pain I'll never rebuild it...  and it's too great to not
rebuild every once in a while.

I find the resealable bag a very effective container. They are
reasonably efficiently packed into a tub, and it is relatively easy to
fluff them around to get the specific part or color you want up to the
top. I mostly use freezer strength quart and gallon sizes (and wish the
Hefty One Zip brand came in a 1/2 quart or smaller bag).

I don't like to do this because I find it pretty hard to find the one
ziplock I'm looking for in a huge pile of ziplocks.  (On the other hand,
due to space constraints, I may have to start doing that.  It's a very
space efficient way to store.)

21. Finally you create an "overflow" system of buckets, where, if the bin
of 1x3 yellow plates is full, you just any additional ones into that
overflow bucket, along with other plates.  (One of the first indicators that
you should do this was that you didn't have a compartment big enough to hold
all your Lego horses...)

Hmm, haven't overflowed the box of horses in a long time (it once was in
a tissue box in a draw, now is in a 12"x18"x4" box which is close to
full. Bricks were the first to overflow. Most plates are now
overflowing. Overflow is relatively sorted (I recently sorted the large
plates overflow).

Yeah, my bricks and such overflowed long ago.  But that didn't seem
unusual.  It did seem strange to me that I had so many horses I actually
had a box on a shelf marked "horses".  It was easy to envision this
turning into an entire shelf with "dragons", "monkeys", "parrots",
"polar bears"...  overflow for animals makes a lot more sense.

You forgot another step: the one where your life revolves around buying
and sorting and you almost never build anything.

Yep, you've hit the nail on the head with that one.  I've got some
thoughts on that which I will perhaps write up the next time I've spent
too much of an evening sorting and can't sleep...

But that's definitely the big issue.  The people who amaze me are the
ones who have large lego collections, have time to build MOCs, and also
have time to keep up with the article flow here and even post regularly.
I'm guessing they don't have a 2-year old. :-)

There's also another thing which causes a hitch in the system. If you
buy used LEGO, there's a whole ordeal of washing it. I have spent entire
days washing and laying out to dry, and then finally sorting or rarely
building the set.

Net bags and a dishwasher.

  -r'm

Remy Evard / evard@mcs.anl.gov


Subject: 
Re: the evolution of lego sorting
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lugnet.storage
Date: 
Tue, 9 Jan 2001 06:08:30 GMT
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Remy Evard wrote:
To be completely honest, I don't remember quite what happened for me
in the beginning either.  By the time I was 10 or so (20+ years ago),
I was sorting by part, if I sorted at all.  But I do remember sorting
by color for about a day or two and realizing it just wouldn't work for
me.  So the early bits in this evolution were written more based on
what I've seen people say they were doing here and a faint recollection
of my really early Lego days.

As a child, I don't think we (me and my sisters) sorted the LEGO at all,
or at least not into more than a few bins (I just remembered my dad
built a box with drawers and dividers which might have been for the
LEGO), but then we didn't have all that much (basic bricks, a few
plates, classic doors and windows, slopes [but no peaks or corner
slopes], a train set, and a fire truck set, and probably a few other
pieces).

I have almost no sets archived in this way (though I have an overflow of
builtup sets on shelves, tables, or any other semi-flat surface).

I've got quite a few, in part because those particular pieces are
special.  For example, my yellow castle is either displayed or archived..
those pieces are never mixed in with the large pile.  Same with some of
my really really old sets, from the early 60s.  Those pieces are too
different from the rest to really mix in.o

I don't have enough older sets to worry about, of course I also have a
separate bucket of older used bricks from various eBay lots and the
kid's collection I bought...

The other reason I archive by set is that I just plain enjoy building
some of the sets as their own set.  For example, the Guarded Inn is this
way.  I build it, set it up, then eventually need the shelf space, but
can't bear to mix it in to the large pile because finding all the pieces
is such a pain I'll never rebuild it...  and it's too great to not
rebuild every once in a while.

I haven't broken down any set which I really think I will want to
re-build, so so far, this isn't an issue for me.

I find the resealable bag a very effective container. They are
reasonably efficiently packed into a tub, and it is relatively easy to
fluff them around to get the specific part or color you want up to the
top. I mostly use freezer strength quart and gallon sizes (and wish the
Hefty One Zip brand came in a 1/2 quart or smaller bag).

I don't like to do this because I find it pretty hard to find the one
ziplock I'm looking for in a huge pile of ziplocks.  (On the other hand,
due to space constraints, I may have to start doing that.  It's a very
space efficient way to store.)

In a 3033 tub or similar sized tub, it isn't too hard to find the
particular bag. In a much larger tub it would be more of a problem.
Another nice thing about the bags is that if you want to work someplace
not next to your storage, you can take just the bags you will need (and
of course you will only take about 1/4 of those, so you will make
several trips back to the storage, and eventually the bags will
overwhelm your work area, meanwhile a couple of them have spilled over
and made a big mess).

Yeah, my bricks and such overflowed long ago.  But that didn't seem
unusual.  It did seem strange to me that I had so many horses I actually
had a box on a shelf marked "horses".  It was easy to envision this
turning into an entire shelf with "dragons", "monkeys", "parrots",
"polar bears"...  overflow for animals makes a lot more sense.

I don't have any overflow boxes for animals, they so far have just
migrated into larger containers. The horses have done so once (but the
container they moved into also had tissue boxes tucked into it with
other animals. Those tissue boxes have for the most part been evicted
from the horse box.

But that's definitely the big issue.  The people who amaze me are the
ones who have large lego collections, have time to build MOCs, and also
have time to keep up with the article flow here and even post regularly.
I'm guessing they don't have a 2-year old. :-)

Like Larry? Who not only buys and builds, but also puts together kits
(of course his LEGO may not be very well sorted)?

There's also another thing which causes a hitch in the system. If you
buy used LEGO, there's a whole ordeal of washing it. I have spent entire
days washing and laying out to dry, and then finally sorting or rarely
building the set.

Net bags and a dishwasher.

I prefer to hand wash so I can scrub the pieces which need it, and be
gentle with the transparent parts etc. I'd also be concerned about the
temperature of my dishwasher.

Frank


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