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Re: Empire's Age?
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Sat, 23 Mar 2002 06:13:32 GMT
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In lugnet.starwars, Leonard Hoffman writes:
> > Look at it this way (yes yes, real life to sci-fiction
> > comparison), lets say the United States is the Old Republic.  None of the
> > states can leave because there are laws in place preventing them to do so.
> 
> I'm sorry, but the reason why no state can leave is because the Union will send
> an army in and occupy them. (reference THE CIVIL WAR, 1861-1865)  Unity is
> maintained by, 1)common interests and 2)military might.

Common good is a law/core-democratic value. :))  But as in Ep2 the Republic
sent in a ground force as well as trying to make negotiations.

> > Only an act of Congress(The Galactic Senate) could allow that or military
> > action, like the separatists did.  And even at that the Separatists were
> > just a bunch of hoo-ha made up by Palpatine to lure the Jedis into a trap.
> > He bought a clone army for himself, but on the other side IIRC, he bought on
> > for himself and destroyed the Jedi that way.  Besides if the state (or
> > splinter) separated from the others, it would have to be completely
> > self-sufficient.
> 
> I think a planet or a system could be self-sufficient.  why not? we are.

We are on the border line.  Although we don't really need electronics, most
of them come from imports.


> > And note even today as it was in Star Wars times, it is
> > hard to do that.  I am sure you can figure out why ;) • snip.
> > > How did Adolf Hitler come to power
> > > in Germany? How did Saddam Hussein come to power in Iraq? What KEPT them in
> > > power?
> > 
> > What kept them in power was an iron fist.  LIKE Palpatine.  But look at
> > Hitler's reign.  Only about 30 years--like the Empire (Ok ok so that is
> > comparing it to real life).  Sooner or later people are going to start
> > standing up to unjustice and rebel.
> 
> umm.. try Hitler was in power for 13 years.  The way you stay in power is
> figure out who your constituents are, and make life as cozy as possible for
> them.  then, figure out who your most powerful enemies are, and try to make
> them like you at least a little.  then, crush everyone else as much as possible
> so that they could never get to the point of resisting.
> 
> The big thing is to never offend anyone with the power to beat you.  That's why
> hitler failed (attacking USSR and USA), and why Stalin remained in power (no
> major war except WW2).

Iron fist= killing people who might be able to take power away from you. :))

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(...) I'm sorry, but the reason why no state can leave is because the Union will send an army in and occupy them. (reference THE CIVIL WAR, 1861-1865) Unity is maintained by, 1)common interests and 2)military might. (...) I think a planet or a (...) (25 years ago, 23-Mar-02, to lugnet.starwars)

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