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Re: It would be cool to have...
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Tue, 17 Feb 2004 03:52:48 GMT
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.space, I feel, doesn’t have that type of community. There are alot of
respected builders here (who build awesome MOCs, BTW) and it’s kind of hard
for a new builder to get in.
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As a long time lurker and relatively new poster, I thought I would add some of
my own observations.
First, there are some well established builders in the community that you can
almost count on to post something uber-cool everytime they touch their computer.
These builders get alot of respect and feedback on seemingly every creation, and
deservedly so. Over time they have developed into master builders who can be
very creative in comming up with not only stunning creations but also new themes
where their creations tie-in with each other. The thing that is important to
rememeber is that everybody here was a newbie, just like I am. I’ve been
lurking long enough to remember when the GA first started posting here. He had
to “break-in” just like everybody else. The only thing that seems to work is to
keep building and keep posting and keep trying to evolve your building style.
It takes time for any “new-guy” to be accepted into any established social
structure, be it a new job, new school, or new-girlfriend’s family. Internet
news groups are no different. The ones that come on and post one or two
creations and then complain at the lack of attention have not lasted very long.
One thing that is different about the internet is that as a newbie, you’ve had
the priveledge to lurk and observe everyone and “get to know them” before
posting. I think that sometimes, a newbie might forget that the group DOES NOT
KNOW YOU AT ALL. They only way they can get to know you is for you to continue
posting and participating in discussion. Think of it from this point of view.
Its the first day of class and a new kid from out of town moves in. After a
couple of days he throws a tantrum because people are not paying attention to
him. How would you react?
Second, .space is full of fads. Spiffcraft, turbocycles, pods, moonbase,
hovercars, PCS, 3vil, etc have all been (or are currently) wildly popular. It
seems like a newbie who’s first MOC coincides with the latest fad will get a
better response than a first MOC that does not. For example, a few years back,
there was a blacktron contest. During that time just about any BT1 MOC received
generous amounts of praise/criticism. I posted a BT1 MOC relatively recently
that received very little feedback... whoops missed the boat on that one.
Oh-well, not a big deal. I’m still happy with that MOC and thats all that
really matters to me. I’ve seen lots of great mocs that do not recevie comments
seemingly because what-ever-fad is now “out of style”. So if a newbie wants
more immediate attention, I suggest they try to build and post a P-38 related
creation right now. Some things like classic space are perennial favorites; a
good classic space moc will usualy generate some discussion.
Third, a genuinely original creation (in concept or theme) or a MOC that
exhibits a break-through use of pieces will generate discussion. Sometimes
these MOCs will lead directly to a new fad, like the pods did. Specifically,
the Starbrewer1 was very well recevied here and it was posted by a newbie. I
suspect this is because it was a very well built MOC and most of us have not
seen an inter-steller beer truck before. PCS was so popular not because it was
created by Chris Giddens but because he had a genuinely unique building idea and
was able to use the transparent wall panels, and ball joints (and many other
pieces) in a new and exciting fashion. Actually, I think the whole PCS concept
helped raise Chris’s “rank” in the community.
Othertimes a MOC to use xyz-new-part in an interesting way, or someone who
invents an entirely new construction technique will receive lots of feed back.
SNOT building, studless design, greebling, nanofig scale, are all building
techniques that have evolved here. Once that part or building technique has
become “main-stream” it does not generate nearly as much discussion.
Lastly, there are some builders who are talented enough and have collections
large enough to build MOCs on a scale that is so large that you have to take
notice. I recently saw an awesome MOC of the star-blazers yamato on brickshelf.
I’m sure if who ever built that started posting here they would receive lots of
attention. Likewise, if I had enough pieces and time to build a roomsize MOC of
great-wall of china or starship enterprise, and detail it appropriately, it
would probably get lots of feed back. However, those people are few and far
between. Most of us probably have rather modest collections, and we only dream
of building mocs like that.
So, we should all just relax. Yes, .space is a clique, but it is a clique that
evolves over time. Everyone starts as a newbie. The “admirals” of the group
all started out as lowly ensigns and took their knocks. It takes time to be
accepted by the community and earn your place in its social hierarchy.
Generally the more you contribute to the group the more respect you earn. I
don’t think it is much different than any other human social environment. As
long as you are respectful, kind, and “play well” with others, .space generally
will accept anyone.
I know it can be very disapointing to work very hard on a MOC, post it, and then
receive no feedback. However, there is the old saying that “beauty is in the
eye of the beholder”. If you are posting your MOCs looking for some sort of
validation or nod from the group then you are probably going to be continually
disapointed. Any MOC that you create is for yourself. When you “finish” it, it
should be finished because you are happy with it. When you share it online, you
are sharing it for the benefit of the community. Sometimes the community will
like it, and sometimes they won’t. However, it really should not matter to you
what the community thinks since it is YOUR creation.
I’ve probably rambled enough now (especially for a newbie).
drc
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| (...) Thank you for your very helpful post. Highlighted. Sorry if I have caused a little controversy. I feel a lot better about .space now. Now I'm gonna build me some space MOCs! Nathan Wells (21 years ago, 17-Feb-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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| (...) Agreed. One reason I deserted Space (for the moment) was that Classic-Castle is a friendly, easy-to-use site with a great community. Unlike .space, the C-C forum is very welcoming of members and there has been disputes among anybody, just good (...) (21 years ago, 16-Feb-04, to lugnet.space, FTX)
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