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Re: BIG update on Bardiel website
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Thu, 27 Jul 2000 23:01:46 GMT
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Have you read the Hyperion series of books by Dan Simmons?  There are elements
of your story in the series (ie the Church being a powerful force in the
galaxy, the nature of man).  There's also a lot more, too much to go into
here.  Anyway they are a really good read.

Jason

In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer writes:
> Joel Kuester <septenemae@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:FyBuMF.AnE@lugnet.com...
> > 
> > Like I said, it's probably just a difference in design taste... it • actually
> > looks quite amazing in the whole ship pictures.  The only time some of the
> > detail sticks out as odd to me is a couple of the close-up pictures.  It
> > definately looks cluttered in a pretty realistic/patchy way.  Kinda like • the
> > wayward love-child of the Millenium Falcon and Babylon 5  :)
> > 
> > actually, if it is explained on your page... I missed it: what does the • name
> > mean?  It sounds familiar, but can't remember what it may mean.  Is it a
> > medievel weaponry term?
> 
>       Unfortunatly not much is explained on my page at all right now but in
> the future I'll have a lot of text. The name is from a heirarchy of angels
> from kabalism. Kind of like really early Judaism. Its pronounced kind of
> like "Gabriel". Bardiel is supposedly the angel of lightning.
> 
> > well, I have to be honest and say that now that I have seen your ship in a
> > more completed form I HAVE to build another ship.  Mine looks pretty lame • next
> > to yours.  Not that I build out of a competitave spirit against other • people,
> > but I have a lot more time, space, and parts from when I originally built • the
> > Elegance... and your ship really inspires me to work to my fullest • potential.
> > 
> > 
> > would a ship that large be able to feasibly enter an atmosphere?
> 
> You know thats just it. My ship is actually not that long if 1 stud= 1 foot.
> Its around the size of the Blockade Runner from Star Wars....maybe even a
> little smaller....Actually I think its right at the size of the Republic
> Cruiser at the beginning of the Phantom Menace. I figure it can make
> planetfall. I need to make landing skids though. Oh yeah I believe its also
> around the size of the transports from Empire Strikes Back.
> 
> Actually,
> > this brings up the whole question of what kind of tech level you built • this
> > at.  I would be interested to know if you have a backstory or anything • plot-
> > wise about the universe this ship is from.
> 
> Well as far as tech goes, its faster than light...obviously has artificial
> gravity...I can't decide how maneuverable it will be at sub light... It will
> have weapons..That just skims the surface. As for story I'm gonna quote
> myself from an earlier post:
> 
>        Ok heres my ship's story-- very summarized:  There was once a huge
> church/ theocracy which arose at the point when a certain civilization (its
> earth in my head but it doesn't HAVE to be) began to finally reach out into
> the stars. The church was initially formed as part of a movement to preserve
> the notion of the civilization's life forms travelling in space as living
> beings; instead of there essences stored in data on unmanned vessels and
> delivered to distant  worlds via computers, robots and Von neumann machines,
> which would "bring them to life/ regenerate them" when they got there. Later
> the church ( which of course borrowed many of its ideals from previous
> religions ) grew to a huge empire with a fleet of massive ship/churches
> designed to "enlighten" worlds that did not see the theocracy's views (which
> were of course not so noble at that point). My ship, which is one of the
> smallest of these ships, is later found through mysterious circumstances
> long  after the empire has faded away. La la la .. theres more but I won't
> torture you. Its heavily inspired by Asimov, the Dune books, Star wars,
> Frank J. Tipler and the Catholic church.
> 
>    Thats sort of it...I still don't know if the ship is found by smugglars
> or by pirates or by salvagers maybe.... I do know that its very old and that
> its one of the smallest from the church's original fleet.
> 
> -Jon
> 
> 
> > 
> > Interesting... I wish I could work like this.  I tend to go weeks without
> > building anything, and then when I get an idea I work for whole days or • for
> > any available spare time to finish it.  After completing a large project I
> > don't feel burned-out on Lego per se, just whatever theme I was building • in.
> > IE after finishing my Millenium Falcon, I didn't do any space for a month • or
> > so, and after finishing Port Feyr, I didn't do any castle for months. • etc...
> > I want to learn how to pace myself better, its just too hard to control my
> > exuberence when I am truly inspired to only work a little each day.
> > 
> > can't wait to see your ship done...
> > 
> > cheers!
> > Joel K



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"Jason Ellis" <jae@interwrx.com.nospam> wrote in message news:FyDpAy.D7E@lugnet.com... (...) elements (...) You know I've never read those but back in high school I read Summer of Night by the same author I believe. It was actually a pretty nice (...) (26 years ago, 28-Jul-00, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, lugnet.build)

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Joel Kuester <septenemae@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:FyBuMF.AnE@lugnet.com... (...) actually (...) the (...) name (...) Unfortunatly not much is explained on my page at all right now but in the future I'll have a lot of text. The name is from (...) (26 years ago, 27-Jul-00, to lugnet.space, lugnet.general, lugnet.build)

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