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Re: Newton Labs Not releasing PCODE source for 3.1 -> Fred Help!
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Wed, 6 Sep 2000 07:27:29 GMT
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Whew. I have encountered the same problem back when I wanted the improved
PWM code in the new version of IC. Back then (about 2 years ago) I managed
to find someone who actually had a copy of the 3.1 pcode. Don't ask me for
it, I lost it long ago.
My general take is that development on the commercial version of
Interactive C halted a long time ago. The windows version and the mac
version are wildly out of sync with each other (the mac version is much,
much better). No updates have been released in a couple of years and it
looks like their Arc C development environment is getting all the resources
in house as it is used on some of the hardware they sell. My pet peeve at
the time was that the UI on windows was substandard and I wanted to donate
my time to make it a little better. I too heard nothing from Newton Labs,
only validating my belief that development was halted.
What are we to do? Newton Labs is a commercial company, it is in their
right to sell product they are no longer actively developing. Its also their
right to keep the source code.
I originally bought v3.1 because
1) It had a UI.
2) It supported multidimensional arrays.
3) It supported defines.
I've often been tempted to start adding some of these things to the v2.8
source thats out there, but every time i look at the code I get discouraged.
There are no real build instructions for all platforms, nor projects to get
things started. If anyone has the time, maybe something should get started
at Sourceforge.net? I'm not really using my handyboard that much anymore, so
I don't have an itch to scratch.
good luck,
chris prosser
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Normandin" <jerrynormandin@ne.mediaone.net>
To: <lugnet.robotics.handyboard@lugnet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: Newton Labs Not releasing PCODE source for 3.1 -> Fred Help!
> George Musser brought up a very good issue! Where the heck is
> pcode_hb.asm?
> This code was released in ver 2.86 and enhancements were made to the
> pcode
> from the user base. Newton Labs has tunnel vision and NO CLUE to how
> open source software can evolve. I did a find under the directory where
> I installed
> IC 3.1 on my linux box and indeed did not have the source to
> pcode_hb.s19.
> I bought 3.1 as my way of Supporting Interactive C. What a joke, I
> should
> have stayed with 2.86, if not having the source to code bothers you,
> and Newton Labs doesn't see the light, I recommend sticking with
> the free version of Interactive C, at least we can add to pcode if we
> wish to.
> If you purchase 3.1 and want to add functionality.. you
> can't!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I don't know if Fred can help us. I thought I'd get the source to
> pcode_hb.asm
> since it was included with the Free version.
>
> We can always disassemble the code, but it would be easier to add to if
> we
> have the labels and comments in the code.
>
> What's up with Newton Labs? Gee we can use the enhanced 2.86 for free,
> you decide to support them by purchasing a copy and they don't give you
> the latest source, they have no clue.
>
> I sent them an email stating if they don't want to release the pcode
> then
> I want a refund and I will stick with 2.86
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