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Re: Help!! Polaroid problem!!!
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Date: 
Wed, 22 Apr 1998 17:37:40 GMT
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MAR ERICSON <mar@cooper+AvoidSpam+.edu>
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oh yeah?  Well, what about the capcitor, huh?  ;)

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ericson mar
Master of Engineering Candidate
Project: Mobile Robotics
mar@cooper.edu
(212)353-4356

Department of Mechanical Engineering
The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art
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On Wed, 22 Apr 1998, Darkman wrote:

> The reason you don't need a pull up resistor for the Handy Board is because
> the Handy Board has built in 47k pull up resistors on the digital inputs!
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MAR ERICSON <mar@cooper.edu>
> To: Darkman <lroska@cyberus.ca>
> Cc: crm0922@bu.edu <crm0922@bu.edu>; handyboard@media.mit.edu
> <handyboard@media.mit.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 10:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Help!! Polaroid problem!!!
> 
> 
> > Why does it seem like everyone except me needs a pullup resistor and
> > perhaps a capacitor somewhere to operate the Polaroid?  I've never had any
> > problems without any of these components.  ???
> > 
> > The first time I connected the sensor, it worked perfectly.
> > Maybe I my Handy Board happens to have better components?  :-/
> > 
> > -----------
> > ericson mar
> > Master of Engineering Candidate
> > Project: Mobile Robotics
> > mar@cooper.edu
> > (212)353-4356
> > 
> > Department of Mechanical Engineering
> > The Cooper Union for the Advancement of Science and Art
> > -------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Darkman wrote:
> > 
> > > Are you using a pullup resistor on the ECHO pin?  If not that is your
> > > problem.
> > > The ECHO output is an open collector driver which requires an 4.7 K • pull-up
> > > resistor between the output and Vcc.
> > > The pull-up is necessary for connecting the module to a digital input.
> > > 
> > > I power mine with a 7805 voltage regulator and it seems to work fine but • i'm
> > > not using it continiously.
> > > 
> > > The clicking sound is normal.
> > > 
> > > Another thing I noticed that if I ground the transducer it malfunctions.
> > > 
> > > I hope that helps ,  Let me know!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Moylan <crm0922@rocketmail.com>
> > > To: handyboard@media.mit.edu <handyboard@media.mit.edu>
> > > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 10:46 AM
> > > Subject: Help!! Polaroid problem!!!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I am trying to use one of the Polaroid 6500 kits from Wirz with my
> > > > senior design project.  It doesn't exactly use a handyboard, but our
> > > > microcontroller is virtually identical at the lowest level.  The problem
> > > > is when we attach the device to the scope, we NEVER see any significant
> > > > voltage on the ECHO pin.  With the INIT pulsing 5V every second, we
> > > > still get nothing but residual noise (kind of a lot, but at no more
> > > > than .5V)and the remnants of the sixteen pulses from the ping.  I hear
> > > > a clicking sound too, which was unexpected and is quite annoying.  Is
> > > > this normal?  How come I never have any voltage on ECHO?  I am not
> > > > using the blanking inhibit at all, and if I look at the noise at about
> > > > a 200mv setting on the scope, I can see a shape in the noise that
> > > > changes with an objects proximity to the transducer, but it is not
> > > > anything like a logic level.  I have tried a million different ways of
> > > > hooking this thing up and have tried two different driver boards.  I
> > > > am going to buy another transducer tommorrow, but this is getting
> > > > ridiculous. How does one go about testing the device?  I am powering
> > > > it with a HP E3631A Triple output DC power supply with the current
> > > > limiter maxed at 5.0 Amps, which should be enough to cover the 2A
> > > > pinging surge.  Please help me figure out what is going on or a better
> > > > way to test it.  We connected it to the microcontroller as it connects
> > > > to the handyboard, but that of course didn't work either.  If you can
> > > > respond via email, that would be best because I don't get this list
> > > > regularly.  Please respond soon so I don't fail senior design!! ;-)
> > > > Take it easy,
> > > > 
> > > > Chris
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 
> 



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  Re: Help!! Polaroid problem!!!
 
Generally the capacitor is the problem :-) The capacitor in the original note is there to pull BINH true* to allow the sensor to detect things that are closer than 18". Generally, when you include it, unless the design of the system holding the (...) (28 years ago, 23-Apr-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)

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  Re: Help!! Polaroid problem!!!
 
The reason you don't need a pull up resistor for the Handy Board is because the Handy Board has built in 47k pull up resistors on the digital inputs! -----Original Message----- From: MAR ERICSON <mar@cooper.edu> To: Darkman <lroska@cyberus.ca> Cc: (...) (28 years ago, 22-Apr-98, to lugnet.robotics.handyboard)

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