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RE: legOS (-> Interdisciplinary Learning?)
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lugnet.robotics
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Tue, 1 Dec 1998 20:11:42 GMT
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Stefano Franchi <franchi@csli.Stanford.EDU>
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At 6:55 PM +0000 12/1/98, Vaan, Howard wrote:
> Funnily enough, my first degree was philosophy. It was quite a lift to see
> a Papert quote printed on a box of Lego!
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> The VB SDK that Lego provide might be OK for a non-technical undergraduate
> class, although I'd hesitate to introduce nasty MS VB as a teaching
> language. I'm not up to date on current Logo implementations, but from what
> I know this seems too limited (you can surely do as much, albeit more
> slowly, with the Lego software). SmallTalk seems like a great choice - in
> my original mail I was going to suggest MindStorms as a platform for
> learning object orientation. SmallTalk has the nice self-developmental feel
> that you need as well.
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> Do you have a version of SmallTalk in mind?
Jerry Bell wrote me that someone has managed to interface Dolphin Smalltalk
to the RCX. It is just too bad that Stanford is Mac based and Dolphin
Smalltalk is Windows only. I didn't have a specific version of Smalltalk in
mind when I wrote the message (the one I used to use, Digitalk's, is now
dead or close to), although I have looked very briefly into the (free)
Squeak implementation and it looks very interesting. Now if someone would
interface it to the RCX....
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> Also, I'd love to do a predator-prey evolution project, but alas I have only
> a single RCX. It's a good project because it's fun and can be approached
> using a number of different methodolgies: Symbolic vs sub-symbolic,
> adaptive, genetic etc.
Right. That's exactly what I'd like to do: a hands-on simulation of the
different approaches to the explanation of micro-level "cognition".
> Can't the IR transceiver send numbers in the 1-255 range? That should
> enable some fairly productive messaging.
I have no idea (yet) if the IR transceiver can do that. But how would you
use such a messaging capability? My (admittedly still very inchoate) idea
was to simulate "real" life conditions by either using the temperature
sensor someone has mentioned (predator) + some heat generating device
(prey), or alternatively a light sensor/light to simulate smell (by making
the predator reacting to a gradient in the light intensity, and perhaps by
using two light sensors to provide some directionality).
I haven't tested either of these ideas, not will I able to do it until the
quarter is over and the finals are graded. But I am looking forward to some
very interesting vacations. And if it counts as work....
Stefano
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