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RE: RCX Output
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Wed, 15 Dec 1999 22:07:01 GMT
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Avery, Amos E. <amos.e.avery@disney^Spamless^.com>
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Thanks for the much-needed input.  My goal was/is to eventually build a
fun, interactive multiple train layout with seemingly random events
triggered by multiple networked RCX's.  It looks like I may be designing
a machine that manually turns the train rheostat to achieve my goal.  The
holidays could be interesting.
F'amos

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Taylor [mailto:ntaylor@iname.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 11:05 AM
To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com
Cc: Joel Shafer
Subject: Re: RCX Output


Hello Joel,

Attempting to drive an RC servo directly from the RCX is NOT a good
idea!  The servo is a three wire device; +4.8V to +6.0V for power
(usually the red wire), an approximately 40Hz pulse train of 1.0 to
2.0ms pulses at 0V and +5V logic levels (white or yellow wire), and
ground (black wire).  The pulse train does NOT power the servo motor,
it only tells the chip in the servo where to go ...  the red wire
supplies power to drive the motor until an internal pot is turned
to the point where the position of the servo equals the position
commanded by the pulse width on the white wire.

The RCX delivers a two wire output which changes polarity when a
command is sent to reverse the motor ... and the servo's logic chip
would not be very happy.

I'm sure that you could build external circuitry to let the RCX
control a servo, but I'll leave that exercise to the reader.

Play well,
- Nick -

Joel Shafer wrote:

So if you need a 1, 1.5 & 2ms pulse for controlling a servo and you said
the low setting in NQC = a 1ms pulse, are there other matching motor speed
settings to get a 1.5 or 2ms pulse?

At 05:14 PM 12/15/99 +0000, you wrote:
Hi F'Amos,
I just now put a scope on the motor output ran an NQC motor test
program.  At OUT_FULL the motor output is about +7V DC.  At OUT_LOW
the motor output is a pulse train of 1ms 7V pulses at about 125Hz.
The low level depends on the motor load ... almost 7V with no motor
connected and approaching 0V with a stalled motor.  NQC provides
seven motor speeds ... and by increasing the duty cycle of the pulse
train the average DC level to the motor is changed.

RC servos are also controlled by varying the pulse width.  For most
servos a 1.5ms pulse tells the servo to go to the center position.
Increasing the PW toward 2.0ms turns the servo CW and decreasing
toward 1.0ms turns the servo CCW.  The exact pulse width determines
the exact stopping position.  Servos that are modified for use as
motors can never find a null position so they continue to turn
seeking the nonexistent null.  Unless the PW sent to the servo is
very close to the null PW, the servo will turn at full speed.  If
the null PW is 1500us, then a 1550us PW will result in a slower
speed.

Hope this helps,
- Nick -

"Avery, Amos E." wrote:

--- Nick Taylor <ntaylor@iname.com> wrote:
If I'n not mistaken, the RCX output is pulse width
modulated to control motor speed, while the train controller
varies the DC voltage.

Can anyone confirm the output characteristics of the RCX?
It is my understanding that PWM is used to control RC servos
and not to power them.  Has anyone put a scope on the RCX's
outputs to see what they look like?  If the info is available,
I'd be interested to know the exact output specs (eg. 0-9v 200ma).
F'amos

Joel Shafer    joel@connect.net



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  Re: RCX Output
 
F'amos ... multiple networked RCX's would get pretty expensive. You might want to consider a BASIC Stamp from Parallax or a BasicX device from NetMedia. (2 URLs) is if you can tolerate a train system that isn't 100% pure LEGO. Have fun, - Nick - (...) (25 years ago, 15-Dec-99, to lugnet.robotics)

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