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Subject: 
RE: IR scanner
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Tue, 30 Nov 1999 18:45:29 GMT
Original-From: 
Jim Thomas <JIM.THOMAS@TRW.COMnospam>
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The biggest problem I see with using rotating platforms, etc. is that they
are slow and use up a bunch of I/O ports to implement well.  There are a
number of "one pixel" sensors that you can use with these implementations --
several have been mentioned here.  I am kindof captured by the triangulation
idea.  Sound travels at around 1Kft/sec.  So if you had three sensors
mounted on the robot no more than a foot apart I think you could get a very
good directional measurement from an ultrasonic audio beacon.  You end up
with up to 1ms delay so you could make a hardware timer running on a 1Mhz
clock or less and still get plenty of resolution.  If you had three
distinguishable beacons (different freqs) you could triangulate your
absolute position in the room.  Not a trivial piece of hardware but you
could multiplex the delay data onto one analog using the mode switching
trick.  The RCX could take the 9 delay times and do the appropriate calcs.

JT

-----Original Message-----
From: Kornel Lambert [mailto:kornel@black-hole.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 8:39 AM
To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com
Subject: Re: IR scanner


Jim Thomas <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote in message
news:BFBCB00A4D7BD211A9BB0000D11BAFAE26A829@mbsp05.sp.TRW.COM...
There is the classic Polaroid ultrasonic range finder.  I
think someone
here
was working on one of these or similar for lego?  They work on the • reflected
signal approach.  Now I thought you wanted to do off board • triangulation.
You can accomplish that using a omni-directional source on • the robot and
three sensors around the room hooked up to your PC.  You • might need custom
acquisition hardware or else the PC might have a ton of data to wade
through.

How about several (>= 3) light sources in an otherwise dimly
lit room, and
the robot tracking them with a light sensor mounted on a tower whose
rotation is measured by a rotational sensor?

The light sensor on the robot would have to be made very
directional (large
tube in front of it) but surely this method would call for
only 1 light
sensor to be used...

Same for finding one's way to a 'beacon' - 2 light about a
meter apart, the
robot would find the midpoint (by rotating the light sensor
constantly and
noting the brightest points, then calculating their midpoint)
and approach
it, when it drives between the lights (i.e. the angle between
them as seen
from the light sensor is >=180) then it would know it has
reached it's goal.

Is this the case, or am I spouting rubbish?

Also related to this, is how would one make the robot turn an
exact angle?

JT

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