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RE: moving in a straight line with two motors?
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lugnet.robotics
Date: 
Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:00:23 GMT
Original-From: 
Carl G. Schaefer, Jr. <[cgschaef@]spamless[futurelinkinc.com]>
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Uhh --- that was a stupid comment, wasn't it?  How do the Lego guys guard
(or shield) against the possibility of the motor magnets disrupting the
electronics or memory onboard the RCX?

Carl (with a very red, I-can't -believe-I'm-an-engineer, face)

-----Original Message-----
From: Laurentino Martins [mailto:lmartins@marktest.pt]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 9:37 AM
To: cgschaef@futurelinkinc.com
Subject: RE: moving in a straight line with two motors?



Err... just on thing, what do you think motors use? Magnets!
Other type magnets will do as much as harm as your motors do, which is no
harm at all (if they are not too much strong).

Laurentino Martins

--//--

At 14:25 13-11-1998 Friday , you wrote:
Ah-Oh...

Magnets in close proximity to the RCX brick may not be a wise idea.  On • just
about all of my mobile bots, the motors are immediately adjacent to the RCX
brick.

Just my 2 cents (US, of course!)

Carl

-----Original Message-----
From: Giesen, Oliver [mailto:OGiesen@mdsintl.com]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 8:39 AM
To: 'lego-robotics@crynwr.com'
Subject: RE: moving in a straight line with two motors?


G'Day
My 3 cents (Canadian, Eh).
The most elegant solution I have seen to this problem I believe came from • an
old Milton Bradly 'Big Trak', in which the designers used a magnetic • clutch.
The idea is simple , getting the forces involved to balance may be more
tricky I have not yet tried this with Lego(TM) bricks.

Basically you get two large pulleys (or bars) and mount two magnets • opposite
each other on the same side,  one pulley has the two north poles facing out
and one has the two south poles facing out, when the two pulleys are • mounted
so that the magnets face each other the two pairs of magnates will attract
each other and then when one axle is turned the other will turn with it.

Now the tricky(?) part... the idea is that when both wheels are driving
forward together the difference in torque will be low enough and the • magnets
strong enough that the two axles will stay in step.  When turning by only
driving one motor and thus only side of our little clutch the torque will • be
great enough to unstick the magnets and one side will spin freely.

Its kind of cool to watch.

This also seems to work better if the clutch turns faster that the wheels
being driven, so it should be placed closer to the motor than the drive
wheel end of  the transmission drive chain.

I hope I have been clear in my description, it is obvious when you see
it.(sorry no web page yet)(;(

Cheers!
Oliver.
ogiesen@mdsintl.com
sent to lego-robotics@crynwr.com

Horrible ASCII art:
Top View

     |            < axle
     |            <
----------       < pulley 1
  n      n        < two magnets mounted on pulley 1's surface
                  < air space
  s      s        < two magnets mounted on pulley
----------       < pulley 2
     |            <
     |            < other axle

-----Original Message-----
From: lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com [mailto:lugnet.robotics@lugnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 10:11 PM
To: lego-robotics@crynwr.com
Subject: moving in a straight line with two motors?


Hi,

One of the first things I ran into when making a mobile 'bot using one
motor for each of two drive wheels was the mismatch in their speed.
Needless to say, it's a nice way to make curved path.  Not what I want.

<snip>

Unfortunately, gear slop keeps this from working well for me.  Any
suggestions?

Thanks,
-Tim

--
Tim and/or Shelley Rueger - rueger "at" io.com
WWW page: http://www.io.com/~rueger/



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Carl G. Schaefer, Jr. <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote (...) By making sure the magnets are not strong enough to do those things. Which isn't hard - it takes a very strong magnet to interfere with solid state electronics. It's only magnetic media (...) (26 years ago, 14-Nov-98, to lugnet.robotics)

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