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Would-be hacker queries. / Re: Request for new list
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Sat, 8 May 1999 01:18:18 GMT
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Hi.
Hope I can jump in here and ask where a newby who knows he's in the deep end in computer science
discussions, - knows he's taking in water, coughing and spluttering but loving every minute of it -
go to ask elementary questions like:
What's a class library?
How do you define function-local variables / recursion / global variables /
dynamic memory allocation / dymamic string allocation /
object oriented programming, for Christopher's sake?
I know this is basic stuff for some and could take up vast yards of bandwidth but I need to find
guidance somewhere.
Some teenagers might have got the MindStorms RIS to learn robotics, but I got it to learn
programming while having a blast. OK, I'm a doctor, so I'm used to tackling vast heaps of technical
definitions and description, but I bet there are others out there who came here for the same reason.
I bet we could, in one group or the other, steadily build up a FAQ full of relevant definitions for
would-be hackers. Or pointers to sources of reference, preferably on the net. Any ideas?
Please pardon me if I've overlooked an existing source for this kind of newby knowledge. I scrolled
through the whole (awesome) homepage looking.
Thanks for the opportunity to be a fly on the wall at the fascinating discussion, this last week.
Regards,
Ko-LIIN.
Joel Shafer wrote:
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> I request that the discussions of alternate firmware implementation details
> go into their own newsgroup now. Discussions about features can be
> crossposted to both lists. There were several requests recently to create
> a new group for newbies to discuss building tips and novice comments. We
> decided to keep newbies on this list so that they could benefit from the
> assistance of more knowledgeable gurus. However, the type and volume of
> computer science discussions that have been occurring on this list recently
> could really drive the newbies away. I think that the current list should
> continue to be a place where a teenager could go and learn more about his
> RCX and programming in general without feeling overwhelmed. Not that the
> current list shouldn't support very technical discussions, just not the
> volume of these discussions that we've experienced lately.
>
> Just MHO.
>
> At 09:44 PM 5/6/99 +0000, you wrote:
> > In lugnet.robotics, markt@lynx.bc.ca (Mark Tarrabain) writes:
> > > Wes Matchett wrote:
> > > > My request to both groups is: don't go 'off-list' until you have a • feature
> > > > spec that was formed with feedback from the whole list. It would be a
> > > > shame for you to finish development of a tool that no one else uses.
> > >
> > > I concur with this opinion. I realize that the subject may be a bit
> > > prevalent right now but the alternative would be to develop a separate list
> > > for alternative firmware discussion, and I don't know how viable that would
> > > be.
> >
> > That's a good pseudo-question. It would actually be quite easy to set up a
> > focused group/list for this, as has been done for legOS, NQC, and pbFORTH;
> > the viability is only dependent on the interest in having more room to
> > breathe. Anything really important can be crossposted for increased
> > visibility, with followups set as appropriate.*
> >
> > The lugnet.robotics newsgroup hierarchy accommodates expansion as new topics
> > arise. So, for example, if a subgroup is for alternative firmware
> > discussions is desired, one possibility is naming it as a subgroup of
> > .robotics.rcx -- or .rcx itself could even be used for this (since
> > lugnet.robotics.rcx is currently a reserved/empty node in the ng tree,
> > existing originally only to structure its 3 subgroups .rcx.legos, .rcx.nqc,
> > and .rcx.pbforth).
> >
> > The reason that lugnet.robotics.rcx wasn't created (as a newsgroup) at the
> > same time its three subgroups were created is that, at the time, no one
> > wanted to talk about other alternative firmware possibilities.
> >
> > It may just make sense to bite the bullet, create the group, and let it sit
> > and either blossom or die, depending on how the winds end up blowing on
> > this.
> >
> > --Todd
> >
> > * The technical details:
> > All lugnet newsgroups are:
> > - real newsgroups served by a real NNTP server from multiple ports (119,
> > 8000, and 8080)
> > - subscribeable via e-mail as instantaneous messages or in digest form at
> > user-specified intervals
> > - archived and searchable via an HTTP web interface (which is also a
> > threaded newsreader)
> > - part of an integrated body of hundreds of LEGO-specific newsgroups
> > --
> > Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics
>
> Joel Shafer joel@connect.net
>
> --
> Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics
--
Did you check the web site first?: http://www.crynwr.com/lego-robotics
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| (...) I'm going out of town and have to run for the bus ayt any moment, so I'm afraid I don't get to answer your questions. But a quick comment to those who are contemplating what the New Environment should be: You see? Not everyone out there wants (...) (26 years ago, 8-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
| | | Re: Would-be hacker queries. / Re: Request for new list
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| Valid questions, all of them. We do tend to remain in the upper ranks of CS on this list. I'll see if I can take a stab at defining some terms quickly and clearly. BTW, I wouldn't mind adding my knowledge of CS to a FAQ for newbies. Mindstorms will (...) (26 years ago, 9-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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| I request that the discussions of alternate firmware implementation details go into their own newsgroup now. Discussions about features can be crossposted to both lists. There were several requests recently to create a new group for newbies to (...) (26 years ago, 7-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
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