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    Re: Some comments (long) —stephen p spackman
   (...) This is FUD. What causes Java to gobble memory is more likely (a) the amount of header overhead it places on objects (more to do with hashing support than gc, I suspect) and (b), to a lesser extent, the fact that objects are never "expanded" (...) (25 years ago, 8-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Some comments (long) —John A. Tamplin
     (...) Java is not particularly space efficient (in typical implementations) for several reasons: 1) value stacks are stored as a union of all the types you can store in a variable, so you eat up at least 32 bits (64 on an implementation supporting (...) (25 years ago, 8-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Some comments (long) —stephen p spackman
     (...) Sure: one aspect of the "expanded" issue. (...) Well, dynamic loading, not late binding; this stuff would not be on the RCX - presumably almost all of the class loader remains on the host machine, with downloaded code pre-linked and (...) (25 years ago, 8-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Some comments (long) —John A. Tamplin
     Let's move this discussion to lego-robotics-rcx, since that group was created for discussions like these. (...) Late binding requires the symbol table or some representation of the same thing. For example, you have C inheriting from B inheriting (...) (25 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         .rcx alternative firmware group/list —Todd Lehman
     (...) John and several other people are set up with the new group and successfully posting to it, so this info is for anyone else: lugnet.robotics.rcx is a newsgroup running on the lugnet.com newsserver and it is available via e-mail as (...) (25 years ago, 10-May-99, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.admin.general)
   
        FWD: Re: Some comments (long) —Mark Tarrabain
     (...) In environments which provide general purpose pointer types which can be assigned to addresses of explicitly allocated memory (like C and C++), garbage collection becomes an NP-hard problem. In environments which have no end-user accessible (...) (25 years ago, 8-May-99, to lugnet.robotics.rcx)
   
        Re: Some comments (long) —Paul Speed
   (...) Hmmm... I guess I have to explain every little word I write so as not to get flamed. People fear Java on a small memory platform because when they run a JVM for any length of time on their Wintel boxes they see it slowly "gobble" more and more (...) (25 years ago, 9-May-99, to lugnet.robotics)
 

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