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    Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
    I know that some folks already have gotten the NXT and have started playing with it, but I've yet to see anybody announcing such here, so I was curious. Also: should I direct new NXT users into the LUGNET forums? I'm already starting to get more (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Cooper
     Mine arrived yesterday, earlier than I expected. I ordered two for... battle.>:-) First impressions: I need to buy fresh batteries, so I haven't fired it up yet. The packaging seemed a little lower budget than the original RCX RIS. The consumer NXT (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Tim Byrne
     (...) My VERY FIRST impression is that the RCX is faster than the NXT. In my two previous tests with the RCX it took about three days with standard shipping to arrive at my door (counting from when shop@home sends me shipment notification). My test (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Steve Hassenplug
      (...) Tim, I think you should consider there are other factors that cause the NXT to be slower than the RCX. You may not be able to accurately run this speed test, until the NXT shipping bottleneck is eased. I assume that will be sometime next year. (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —C. L. GunningCook
       (...) Well I also ran the same test, with both the RCX and the NXT... and the results were so identical, it's almost shocking. RCX - did not place order at shop&home, and strangely it never arrived. NXT - did not place order at shop&home, and (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
      
           Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
       (...) Janey, you need to constrain the test better - the question here is "how *long* did it take the RCX not to arrive?". You have to be specific and scientific on these things... (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
      
           Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —C. L. GunningCook
       (...) Hmmm, now that has just confused me into thinking about it some more.... Since the NXT is just out now, and the RCX has been out for a very long time... I guess my conclusion of them both strangely being the same was jumped to, at much too (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
      
           Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Dennis Williamson
        (...) Don't forget the Heisenberg Uncertaintanty Principle. You know the amount of time that passed during which the NXT or RCX didn't arrive, but you can't simultaneously know where it didn't arrive. Perhaps it's on your porch right now, but you'll (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
       
            Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —C. L. GunningCook
        (...) Oh nooooo!!!! The Heisenberg Uncertaintanty Principle???? Hmmm HUP, almost sounds like a hoax. Wink. You robotics guys are too technical, and are just adding to my scientific experiment dilemmas.... darn realists popping my bubbles. I supposed (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
      
           Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
       (...) Exactly. You see, you may have been waiting for the RCX for many years: without proper documentation, you have no data to extrapolate from. Furthermore there is the statistical nature of the shipping process to consider, so there are (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
      
           Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —C. L. GunningCook
       (...) Oh let me tell ya Brian... I have a whole list of non-measurements that just aren't measuring up. (...) I have a feeling my "real" doctor did the exact same thing... there is no bloody way she earned a real degree... she makes Barbie look like (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
      
           Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
       (...) Hey now! Let's not get personal, I don't want to have to bring my wife in on this... (...) Speaking as someone who actually has gained an advanced degree... *NEVER* assume such things correlate with general intelligence. In some case, they (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.fun, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
      
           Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —C. L. GunningCook
       (...) Well Brian, I will give you credit for being quick, I was expecting that one might fly over some ppls heads. (...) Gee, that's so reassuring. (...) Sounds about my speed! (...) Cool! (refer back to the beginning of the post re:measuring up) (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.fun, lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)
     
          Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Tim Byrne
      (...) As long as its over the water and not through the water. (My RCX made a frightening trip through orange juice before). Anyhow, it may have initially been overseas, but the UPS shipment has originated in Hartford, CT. -Tim (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
      (...) There are two issues here. First, the NXT is slightly larger than the RCX, and therefore requires more shipping space. Thus fewer NXTs per UPS truck, etc. The only way around this was to make them smaller (we on the MUP/MDP pushed for making (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
     
          Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —David Schilling
      (...) This is absolutely true. (*1) I went on vacation a week ago Wednesday, and was REALLY hoping mine would get here before I left. It didn't. But sure enough, as soon as I had left, and didn't care about whether it came this week or next, it (...) (18 years ago, 9-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Alexander Sack
     (...) This was really funny! Mine came yesterday, wasn't home so its coming today late....back to waiting for the brown truck. -aps (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Jim West
     According to Shop@Home, mine shipped out on Sunday and UPS tells me it will be at my house on FRIDAY!!! ...I really need to get more napkins...keep drooling too much... - Jim (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —David Hurley
     (...) I been tinkering with mine for the past few hours. Bluetooth isn't functioning very well with mine. Most likely operator error. I thought it had more memory than it does. I had a hard time programming in more than four sound bites at a time. (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
     (...) What exactly seems to be the problem? Can you connect to the NXT from the programming environment? (...) Note that if you don't want the "Try Me" and on-brick programming options, these can all be deleted freeing up some room. From the memory (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —David Hurley
      (...) I am still having Bluetooth connectivity problems. It may be endemic of my USB dongle I am using; I don't know. I have had a couple successfull connections with BT, but nothing I would consider reliable or consistent. I did mess around with it (...) (18 years ago, 3-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Bluetooth problems, was Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Aaron Nabil
     (...) A couple ideas. It seemed to work exactly once for me on a couple laptops. I was able to restore it by deleting all of the virtual serial ports it created (it seems to create one for each scan, then it looses track of which one it's supposed (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Tom Marx
     Got 4 a few days ago and gave a couple of kits to my advanced robot kids at our summer camps. Actually, they were quite underwhelmed. They didn't like the new motor structure and felt instructions weren't correct and prefer the Mindstorms old (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Gustavo Brinck
     Hi Brian My impressions: Very nice machine, I love bluetooth, the motor control accuracy and the new sensors, the program environment looks to be very powerful even though I need more practice... Well here is my question, I would like to program a (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
     (...) I'm fairly pleased with that as well, although now I've got big dreams of how to really use it (and then, I'll probably be complaining about how it doesn't have sub-0.1° resolution :-). (...) We all do. NXT-G is a big jump for many of us (...) (18 years ago, 29-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Gustavo Brinck
     Thanks a lot Brian this is very helpful. Obviously I still need to buy a couple of new NXT to try the bluetooth between them !! jejeje P.S. More questions in the near future.... Best regards. Gustavo (18 years ago, 30-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Tim Rueger
     (...) I got mine on Tuesday. I haven't done much with it yet (that pesky job thing), but here's what I've thought so far... <ramble> The small "quick start" box is great, a lot of newbies will be up and running easily. Only one kind of wheels? I (...) (18 years ago, 30-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Philippe Hurbain
      (...) Great! could you send me the modifications list? I think that one concerns the wheels, I believe that the ones I got in MDP kit where not the final version... Philo (18 years ago, 30-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Zachary Benz
     (...) One very big caveat about this - at the end of the installer process on a Mac it runs chmod -R 777 on the contents of the folder installed into. Thus, every single thing in your Applications directory (and all subdirectories, including (...) (18 years ago, 4-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Tim Rueger
     (...) Ye gods! Those are some huge bugs. Is there any way to report them to Lego or NI? (Guess I spoke too soon about good Mac support.) I'm repairing permissons now, and I've fixed up my uninstaller shell script. But this is a big problem that (...) (18 years ago, 4-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Zachary Benz
     (...) I sent this to Lego Tech Support: ((URL) is a serious bug in the Lego Mindstorms NXT software for Macintosh. At the end of the installation process, the software runs "chmod -R 777" on the contents of the folder into which you have decided to (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Jordan Bradford
     (...) I was supposed to get mine today, but UPS reports it's stuck in Illinois: HODGKINS, IL, US 06/29/2006 10:00 A.M. ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS CAUSED THIS DELAY HARTFORD, CT, US 06/28/2006 12:26 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN HARTFORD, CT, US 06/27/2006 (...) (18 years ago, 30-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
     (...) Excellent. I wonder how fast I can drive to Hodkins, IL... :-). (18 years ago, 30-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Jordan Bradford
     I just now happened to check my tracking number, since I'm still awake. HODGKINS, IL, US 07/03/2006 1:42 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN HODGKINS, IL, US 06/29/2006 10:00 A.M. ADVERSE WEATHER CONDITIONS CAUSED THIS DELAY HARTFORD, CT, US 06/28/2006 12:26 A.M. (...) (18 years ago, 3-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Todd Thuma
     (...) Got my NXT in the mail last night and have spent several hours working with it. I am really impressed. I am already itching for temperature, more touch, and some other sensors. Todd (18 years ago, 30-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Benton Jackson
     (...) Thursday, when I saw this thread, I hadn't gotten a shipping email, so I looked on shop.lego.com for my orders. I didn't see it their either, so I figured it got lost in the shuffle. Besides, I really don't have time right now, so that's OK. (...) (18 years ago, 2-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Gordon B
     I ordered mine from Target online. They had a deal for 10% everthing, so with tax and shipping it still worked out to less than $250. The web site says delivery for end of July, but I received mine on June 30. So far have built only the demo Tribot (...) (18 years ago, 3-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Philippe Hurbain
     (...) If you check "Control: Power Power", the motor speed will be regulated. At very low power settings (<10) it may be somewhat unstable. This checbox is available with "Motor" block, not "Move" block. (...) Unfortunately, you're right... Philo (18 years ago, 3-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
     (...) I'm not so sure. Try the following technique on your copy, in case something is broken in my version of the editor. To make a parallel sequence, you just drop an orphan block (one not attached to an existing sequence) and then wire a sequence (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Philippe Hurbain
     (...) Hi Brian, Indeed, it does work. But you better not have to add some blocks in front of of a split beam (inside or outside a loop)! Philo (18 years ago, 5-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
    
         Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Brian Davis
     (...) With that particular example, it seems I can drop a Sound block in front of the loop as a whole, or even in front of the original Sound block within the loop just prior to the sequence beam split. But in general, you're correct - I'm doing (...) (18 years ago, 5-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
   
        Re: Have you got your NXT yet? —Larry Whitman
   (...) A little late, but I got mine today and here are my first impressions: 1) Paid 2 day shipping on Friday and it got here today (was hoping to have it to play with on July 4th, but...) 2) I decided to try to be patient and read the instructions! (...) (18 years ago, 6-Jul-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 

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