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  Re: Newbie needs Help
 
(...) I'm with you until we get here. Attaching at the front of a long nose feels like a bad idea. Any side force on the tow rope will tend to pull the robot off course, and once slightly off course the force only gets worse. In any case, a (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: NBC News for NXT
 
(...) So... How close are we to having a higher-level language based on this (something with syntax close to C)? Is that in the works? (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: NBC News for NXT
 
I really thought the NXT was going to be on network TV. hmm. Steve (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  NBC News for NXT
 
Over the weekend I got my new Mac Mini G4 up and running, installed lots of development tools, copied over my NBC sourcecode and managed to build a working version of the NBC compiler for the NXT brick. I will have a zip containing the Mac version (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) I'll get to that, eventually... there's just too much fun stuff going on, and... (...) A historical point on this. The first time I met Steve was at a sumo event, where I had carefully calculated the correct gear ratio, given the torque of a (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) Not so obvious. If you increase the surface the pressure per surface unit decreases proportionnaly (at least on hard surface)... Actually I would expect little or no variation in traction power. Philo (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) Hmmm - that's unfortunate...but if the 'right' strategy is to go with a non-slipping robot, the measurement of sliption is really a lot less important. (...) Yeah - so many of those basic mechanics equations are only approximations - yet they (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) hmm. This sounds like a good project... (...) All things being equal, I'd put my money on the robot with ten spinning wheels, over a couple (or even ten) stationary ones. I'd also mechanically connect all the motors together, so they drive a (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) As you note in your mini-cooper example, *if* you can keep the wheels from "spinning out", but instead are always in rolling contact with the ground, static friction is what's important... and generally, the static coefficient of friction is (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help
 
(...) That makes sense. (...) Yeah - I agree. So we have to sum some force vectors here. If our robot is pulling to the left, we have a horizontal 'drive' force to the left and a force in the tow rope going off to the right - plus a force due to (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help
 
(...) Dave, Actually I am very happy and grateful. I am getting a crash course. Couldn't have asked for more. Raj. (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help
 
(...) Steve Hassenplug, Sorry, my mistake. Thank you for the Wiki link and all your help. Raj. (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) The problem is that this is measuring the static friction ("stiction"). That's the wrong thing to measure if your strategy is to jam all the motors full on and progress forwards (we hope!) with all wheels spinning. To measure the dynamic (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) I would have expected that compression would be a good thing because it would increase the area of the 'contact patch' - which increases traction - which is a good thing - right? (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) A rather inventive young man that I know did try exactly that - using the ribbed tubing from the Mindstorms set inside the Mindstorms motorcycle tire. It's a good fit, and a good idea, but I'm not sure how effective it was. (...) One simple (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) It does happen - if you use more that 2 motors or if you try to use a RC motor. The driver circuit limits current around 500mA, and at that rate it is not long before going in thermal shutdown mode. (...) No, you won't see smoke... RCX motor (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
Philo, That's interesting, and looks to explain why it is that I've never been able to observe the RCX output going to thermal or current protection cutoff? I've one largish sumo type bulldozer style robot with 4 treads that can easily push 4-5 (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help (diff sensor)
 
(...) Actually it does - barely. With the increased current, RCX output voltage drops, so does motor stall current. See these compared charts: (2 URLs) Philo (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics, FTX)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help
 
(...) Thought provoking question. It led me to the conclusion that when the bot is generating it's maximum possible drawbar pull (as limited by the motor and drive train), the weight on the undriven front wheels (I'm assuming a rear wheel drive (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: Newbie needs Help
 
(...) Yeah - bad for a tractor with front-wheel steering - and a need to steer - not so bad for a robot with either no steering or rear-wheel skid steering. This robot really doesn't care if it's front end gets light - but for a tractor it's a major (...) (19 years ago, 7-Jun-06, to lugnet.robotics)


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