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Subject: 
Re: RIS 2.0 Problems
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Date: 
Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:08:13 GMT
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Brass Tilde <brasstilde@insightbb.com+AvoidSpam+>
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Whether you typing
words, writing ones and zeros or "drawing" a program, the concepts are • the same.

No.  Structured programs, data structures, all of those things are the
cornerstones of modern programming.  People just don't use flow charts or
machine code anymore - and that's what RIS and Robocode are teaching.

I'm going to disagree with this one statement, and this one statement only.
I've been working in the business world creating software for almost 20
years, and I use flowcharts, and their conceptual children, all the time.
While flowcharting a complete program is rare even for me any more, they are
still quite useful for understanding the way a process works, and that's the
key to designing an automated system to accomplish that same process.

Even so-called object oriented languages are procedural based at their core,
and flowcharting, along with other process mapping techniques, are still
quite helpful.



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(...) Danger, that way lies religious war. I would submit that if you're using a real OO language, ORDs, OADs and OMs are more useful than flowcharts. That said, what I have seen of the language that ships with the RCX is not conductive to (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)

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(...) Both use the tired old paradigm of branching around blocks of code more or less at will. This is the way BASIC and FORTRAN have always approached programming and it's well known and documented that those languages have to be 'unlearned' (at (...) (20 years ago, 7-Mar-05, to lugnet.robotics)

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